Page views are a pretty bad metric about quality of conversation. I remember the XKCD comic about "someone is wrong on the Internet"[1] and I wonder if the energy should be put there, at all. [1] https://www.xkcd.com/386/ In my case, some of my fellow programmers friends started with some friendly "bullying" about my choice of Smalltalk/Pharo, well also for my choice of fossil or anything not trendy or popular, and some of them joke about me being some kind of "cyberhypster" :-P. That was at the beginning, and instead of trying to convince them otherwise by talking I prefer to build and demo my Grafoscopio project in our hackerspace but with other people (journalist, students, philosophers, teachers) with the idea of data storytelling instead of programming. Now my fellow programmers friends show more interest (but I'm still a cyberhypster :-)). Unfortunately, programmers culture is a pop/fashionist culture (with few exceptions), pressed by "market" and "delivering". And I don't say that you can not deliver of have a market with Smalltalk/Pharo, but going outside common culture requires a change in mindset that is not moved easily in Internet forums or popular articles. The reflexive thought & long talk format (ie blogs, medium) coupled with projects can provide a better place to invest energy. Thanks for your efforts and I hope than that exploration provide you the leverage point where minimal force produce maximal change. Cheers, Offray Ps: I didn't find a lot of comments in the original article on TechBeacon or Slashdot. Maybe I'm clicking the wrong link, but anyway, hope this helps. On 01/01/17 11:37, Richard Eng wrote:
I tried that tack. I said Pharo is only 8 years old, but some people come back and tell me that Pharo is still essentially Smalltalk. It's hard for me to disagree.
Richard
On 1 January 2017 at 11:27, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr <mailto:stepharong@free.fr>> wrote:
Since people believe that new equals better, we market Pharo as new. And Pharo is new and it will continue to improve so this is not even a lie :)
There is a reason why we decided to go that road and avoid to always say to people that we use a language designed nearly 40 years ago.
But you can try :)
Stef
On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 14:05:12 +0100, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com <mailto:horrido.hobbies@gmail.com>> wrote:
Wow! *In just one day*, the Slashdot story added another thousand pageviews to my TechBeacon article!
However, if you look at the comments, there's an awful lot of disdain for Smalltalk. It appears that Slashdot is inhabited by a lot of ignorant and opinionated programmers. I did not realize this.
I'm trying to respond to the negative comments, but it's getting overwhelming...
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