On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 08:25:47AM -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna C??rdenas wrote:
I think that the comment was referred to the comment made on the PR (not on this list) that was insulting Serge (which I will not repeat). It has
Let's see, I've posted one email to this list describing the dangers of abusing CoCs and one post to GitHub describing the motivations of people who introduce CoCs, and immediately get banned on GitHub from Pharo citing this very CoC (which is apparently now already in force, and is already controlling the discussion of this particular CoC, am I allowed to call this stalinist or kafkaeske, or is this already covered by the blanket ban?). I'm getting called a troll and a nobody in public by members of the project, incidentally thus violating the CoC twice, which is, of course, allowed by the liberal interpretation of what and who is considered abusive. Thank you for instantly proving my points far better than I ever could.
been deleted now and only Stephan's response remains[1]. As you can see is addressing someone different, who has no contributions and no name and seemed to create the account just to insult and you can see by
I've resuscitated that GitHub account a couple years ago for work uses. It will never see content published there since Microsoft purchased GitHub last year. I've joined the pharo-users@ list a few days ago since I'm looking into porting to Pharo OpenCroquet/OpenCobalt project which is being currently resuscitated on Squeak. I commented on the CoC issue since I consider project governance and their failures as very important.
his/her empty account without any info and any contributions[2].
[1] https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/4637#issuecomment-532815478 [2] https://github.com/eleitl
So, in my interpretation, Stephan's comment was referred to the user at [2] and Esteban warning was referred to the closing of the issue because of it, so the "you" in the warning was not the singular "you", but the plural one. Because conversation has been split in two places, these mistakes can be done. I think that you raised a valid concern in a civilized manner, are a recognized member of the community and did not
I'm sorry, I don't seem to find a "recognized" anywhere in the CoC https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blob/Pharo8.0/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md Is this something you're going to include in later revisions of it, or is this up to interpretation?
insulted Serge, so the comments were not addressing you.
This can be a very sensible approach, as the discussion on the list so far have shown, so the more clarity we can have to elevate the conversation and be respectful with the participants, the better.
Let's see, my porting project is dead, but you've got an elevated conversation, and can be all respectful towards each other. One has to have priorities. All the best of luck to the Pharo community. You're going to need it.
Cheers,
Offray