On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Hubert Wagner wrote:
Hello Stephane : Thank you for the welcome message.
Second: our goal is to create an ecosystem around pharo...if you have...needs for business or anything else just let us know.
I'm a Mac OSX user and newcomer to SmallTalk and to Pharo. I have an uncomfortable feeling my question may entirely miss some significant point, whatever that is.
I'm puzzled why the only SmallTalk I've found which runs on the Mac, namely VisualWorks, has a GUI painter. However, compared to Xcode or even RealBasic (or Hypercard for that matter), the GUI painter seems remarkably primitive, given the length of time VisualWorks and SmallTalk, in general, have been under development.
Lack of vision? For Pharo we were just busy fixing so many things but this is on our roadmap. Now with a UIBuilder you have - placing widgets - creating ***reusable*** widgets with logic reuse VW is supporting that. And we are working on that part too with Spec.
An up-to-date GUI builder with well designed, native widgets seems to me to be a prerequisite for a working software development application. Being required, for example, to program a button from scratch takes one back to the early days of personal computing.
What is preventing the various SmallTalks from offering a modern GUI painter?
for us this is money, give me 5 engineers full time and Pharo will not look like Pharo anymore :). PS: Smalltalk and not SmallTalk
My Best Wishes for Pharo and SmallTalk : Hubert Wagner, France