OK I eventually found a working Protocol browser in a beta image (and I can see how it broke in later images).
I can see the idea - and I guess it relies on everyone categorising things properly (I now understand why you get that prompt to categorise your methods properly when you save :)
My initial impression is that it could be easily improved - for example you get no idea how many methods are in a category without clicking on it (some are empty, some have 10 methods etc).
This said, I still would go back to my initial comment - why is there a method finder in the Tools menu, but no Class finder? (In our new smalltalkers tutorial at CSLondon - people actually used the method finder to try and figure out how to do things like String beginsWith: etc. - but how do you find classes? Its got to be related to class name and class comments (and maybe the protocols they support).
Is Find class (cmd-F) in the default browser not enough? or typing in any pane the class and doing cmd-B
But I guess the bigger question is - how can you guys that know how to do this, impart the information and direction so that those of us following behind can meaningfully contribute without wasting your time?
I do not know what you imply exactly. Now my point is that if you improve the tools we will integrate them. I would really like to get better tools.
Do you think there could be a How to Contribute to Pharo tools BOF at ESUG? What is the direction - is it OB or is it Glamor? How do you get started with OB, and what kinds of tools do we need?
- We need a better Test Runner Monticello Browser (Benjmain did a better RecentMessageSet) Deeper Refactoring integration If you want to help there is plenty of topics. For example helping at integrating my my package implementation The problem of Glamour is that this is yet another framework and debug it is not that easy. In general I do not like DSL like mondrian because I have to understand their logic instead of just using my oo skill. Stef
Anyway - I appreciate the patience, and I will keep plugging away.
Tim
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