Hello, I've decided to end my search for an appropriate language/environment in order to write open-surce multi-platform with Pharo. :-)Â Playing a bit with 5.0 image, watching Dimitris' tutorial series, reading several articles (I like Richard's Smalltalk-Talk), subscribed to the mailing lists...convinced me that Smalltalk/Pharo is so much refreshing environment to code in comparison with the pale setup present in som many other statically-compiled languages which I was exploring/evaluating, not to speak about the fact that with Pharo one gets complete setup at once without the need for tedious work of bringing editor+other tools together. I'm aware that Pharo (Smalltalk) are different and I really like its development environment, but wonder about deploying. There is old thread from 2013 providing some help about deploying desktop app, but I wonder if something has changed since then making the whole process somewhat more smooth? I run Debian (Sid) where I'll do all my coding, but would like to provide versions of my desktop app for both Windows and Mac OS-es. Any hint how to proceed? I'd like to see see basic examples which would be equivalent to e.g. some 'classical' desktop app having menu bar wit File/Edit/../About items etc. What is different with Pharo? I assume one does not want to expose the whole dev environment to the end-users, so wonder how to do it? Do devs plan to improve deploying of Pharo desktop app in the future? Although it may be strange, but I'm one of those not liking proliferation of JS and using it for almost everything and therefore I prefer to stay with Pharo (vs e.g. Amber) and write desktop app... Sincerely, Gour -- The intricacies of action are very hard to understand. Therefore one should know properly what action is, what forbidden action is, and what inaction is.