Relation tower is coming for Roassal
Hi! A new builder for Roassal is coming⦠The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#! Here are some screenshots: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.559114290841839.1073741837.3405434... If you like these screenshots, then you know where the like button is :-) We will have this visualization on the web, thanks to our smooth and nice Pharo2Amber migration process. Any idea on how to extend/apply Relation tower? Any set of data you want us to play with? Your data? Feedback are very welcome! Cheers, Ricardo & Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Great addition! Where can we get it from? Doru On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>wrote:
Hi!
A new builder for Roassal is coming⦠The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#!
Here are some screenshots:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.559114290841839.1073741837.3405434...
If you like these screenshots, then you know where the like button is :-)
We will have this visualization on the web, thanks to our smooth and nice Pharo2Amber migration process.
Any idea on how to extend/apply Relation tower? Any set of data you want us to play with? Your data? Feedback are very welcome!
Cheers, Ricardo & Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
this is really nice What I would like is if we can have a relation to another element on the left and that such elements are placed I would really like to have a visualization that I could use to display procedural code and their invocations. procedure def foo calling zork procedure def bar call foo procedure def zork and be able to see that foo calls zork Stef
Hi!
A new builder for Roassal is coming⦠The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#!
Here are some screenshots: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.559114290841839.1073741837.3405434...
If you like these screenshots, then you know where the like button is :-)
We will have this visualization on the web, thanks to our smooth and nice Pharo2Amber migration process.
Any idea on how to extend/apply Relation tower? Any set of data you want us to play with? Your data? Feedback are very welcome!
Cheers, Ricardo & Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Hi Alexandre and Ricardo, I am glad to see your advances in Roassal visualization! I wonder which input formats do you plan to support? Your relation tower can be used to visualize the crossover percentages between haplotype blocks. For example, here are some Haplotypes drawings from Haploview (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haploview) which may interest you: http://www.jnsbm.org/viewimage.asp?img=JNatScBiolMed_2012_3_2_139_101887_f13... from this paper http://www.jnsbm.org/temp/JNatScBiolMed32139-5367486_145434.pdf http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/haplotypes.png http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/journal.pone_.0010207.g005.... I can send you the exported haplotypes from a study if you are interested. It contains 131 blocks which is somewhat big to attach to this list. The only problem I see is that a parser is needed to parse the Haplotype text output file, although the format should not be difficult to parse. Cheers, Hernán 2013/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
Hi!
A new builder for Roassal is coming⦠The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#!
Here are some screenshots:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.559114290841839.1073741837.3405434...
If you like these screenshots, then you know where the like button is :-)
We will have this visualization on the web, thanks to our smooth and nice Pharo2Amber migration process.
Any idea on how to extend/apply Relation tower? Any set of data you want us to play with? Your data? Feedback are very welcome!
Cheers, Ricardo & Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Hi Hernán, The input should be independent from the visualization engine. Roassal offers you a way of transforming your objects into a visualization and it should not be responsible for the input formats. Cheers, Doru On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alexandre and Ricardo,
I am glad to see your advances in Roassal visualization! I wonder which input formats do you plan to support?
Your relation tower can be used to visualize the crossover percentages between haplotype blocks. For example, here are some Haplotypes drawings from Haploview (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haploview) which may interest you:
http://www.jnsbm.org/viewimage.asp?img=JNatScBiolMed_2012_3_2_139_101887_f13... from this paper http://www.jnsbm.org/temp/JNatScBiolMed32139-5367486_145434.pdf
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/haplotypes.png
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/journal.pone_.0010207.g005....
I can send you the exported haplotypes from a study if you are interested. It contains 131 blocks which is somewhat big to attach to this list. The only problem I see is that a parser is needed to parse the Haplotype text output file, although the format should not be difficult to parse.
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
Hi!
A new builder for Roassal is coming⦠The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#!
Here are some screenshots:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.559114290841839.1073741837.3405434...
If you like these screenshots, then you know where the like button is :-)
We will have this visualization on the web, thanks to our smooth and nice Pharo2Amber migration process.
Any idea on how to extend/apply Relation tower? Any set of data you want us to play with? Your data? Feedback are very welcome!
Cheers, Ricardo & Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Hi Tudor, Thanks for the clarification. Can you comment or point a link for the mechanism to transform my data for Roassal? Because if you want to visualize big data like population or association studies input is sometimes millions of rows. Of course I am not asking you to write my parsers :) Cheers, Hernán 2013/12/26 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>
Hi Hernán,
The input should be independent from the visualization engine. Roassal offers you a way of transforming your objects into a visualization and it should not be responsible for the input formats.
Cheers, Doru
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alexandre and Ricardo,
I am glad to see your advances in Roassal visualization! I wonder which input formats do you plan to support?
Your relation tower can be used to visualize the crossover percentages between haplotype blocks. For example, here are some Haplotypes drawings from Haploview (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haploview) which may interest you:
http://www.jnsbm.org/viewimage.asp?img=JNatScBiolMed_2012_3_2_139_101887_f13... from this paper http://www.jnsbm.org/temp/JNatScBiolMed32139-5367486_145434.pdf
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/haplotypes.png
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/journal.pone_.0010207.g005....
I can send you the exported haplotypes from a study if you are interested. It contains 131 blocks which is somewhat big to attach to this list. The only problem I see is that a parser is needed to parse the Haplotype text output file, although the format should not be difficult to parse.
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
Hi!
A new builder for Roassal is coming⦠The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#!
Here are some screenshots:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.559114290841839.1073741837.3405434...
If you like these screenshots, then you know where the like button is :-)
We will have this visualization on the web, thanks to our smooth and nice Pharo2Amber migration process.
Any idea on how to extend/apply Relation tower? Any set of data you want us to play with? Your data? Feedback are very welcome!
Cheers, Ricardo & Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
Hi Hernán, Can you send me privately some data that I can try? If you want to do some modeling, I would suggest to use Moose and use Roassal for the visualization. We can do a pair programming session on this if you wish. My Skype id is alexandre.bergel Cheers, Alexandre On Dec 26, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tudor, Thanks for the clarification. Can you comment or point a link for the mechanism to transform my data for Roassal? Because if you want to visualize big data like population or association studies input is sometimes millions of rows. Of course I am not asking you to write my parsers :)
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/26 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> Hi Hernán,
The input should be independent from the visualization engine. Roassal offers you a way of transforming your objects into a visualization and it should not be responsible for the input formats.
Cheers, Doru
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Alexandre and Ricardo,
I am glad to see your advances in Roassal visualization! I wonder which input formats do you plan to support?
Your relation tower can be used to visualize the crossover percentages between haplotype blocks. For example, here are some Haplotypes drawings from Haploview (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haploview) which may interest you:
http://www.jnsbm.org/viewimage.asp?img=JNatScBiolMed_2012_3_2_139_101887_f13... from this paper http://www.jnsbm.org/temp/JNatScBiolMed32139-5367486_145434.pdf
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/haplotypes.png http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/journal.pone_.0010207.g005....
I can send you the exported haplotypes from a study if you are interested. It contains 131 blocks which is somewhat big to attach to this list. The only problem I see is that a parser is needed to parse the Haplotype text output file, although the format should not be difficult to parse.
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> Hi!
A new builder for Roassal is coming⦠The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#!
Here are some screenshots: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.559114290841839.1073741837.3405434...
If you like these screenshots, then you know where the like button is :-)
We will have this visualization on the web, thanks to our smooth and nice Pharo2Amber migration process.
Any idea on how to extend/apply Relation tower? Any set of data you want us to play with? Your data? Feedback are very welcome!
Cheers, Ricardo & Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Done. Cheers, Hernán 2013/12/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
Hi Hernán,
Can you send me privately some data that I can try? If you want to do some modeling, I would suggest to use Moose and use Roassal for the visualization. We can do a pair programming session on this if you wish. My Skype id is alexandre.bergel
Cheers, Alexandre
On Dec 26, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tudor, Thanks for the clarification. Can you comment or point a link for the mechanism to transform my data for Roassal? Because if you want to visualize big data like population or association studies input is sometimes millions of rows. Of course I am not asking you to write my parsers :)
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/26 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> Hi Hernán,
The input should be independent from the visualization engine. Roassal offers you a way of transforming your objects into a visualization and it should not be responsible for the input formats.
Cheers, Doru
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Alexandre and Ricardo,
I am glad to see your advances in Roassal visualization! I wonder which input formats do you plan to support?
Your relation tower can be used to visualize the crossover percentages between haplotype blocks. For example, here are some Haplotypes drawings from Haploview (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haploview) which may interest you:
http://www.jnsbm.org/viewimage.asp?img=JNatScBiolMed_2012_3_2_139_101887_f13...
from this paper http://www.jnsbm.org/temp/JNatScBiolMed32139-5367486_145434.pdf
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/haplotypes.png
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/journal.pone_.0010207.g005....
I can send you the exported haplotypes from a study if you are
interested. It contains 131 blocks which is somewhat big to attach to this list. The only problem I see is that a parser is needed to parse the Haplotype text output file, although the format should not be difficult to parse.
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> Hi!
A new builder for Roassal is coming⦠The goal of Relation tower is to
easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#!
Here are some screenshots:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.559114290841839.1073741837.3405434...
If you like these screenshots, then you know where the like button is :-)
We will have this visualization on the web, thanks to our smooth and
nice Pharo2Amber migration process.
Any idea on how to extend/apply Relation tower? Any set of data you want
us to play with? Your data?
Feedback are very welcome!
Cheers, Ricardo & Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Hi, I think there is a little confusion here. I meant to say that Roassal allows you to map your whatever objects onto a visualization. How you do this mapping is completely up to you. If you have a million objects, you will have to do some preprocessing yourself. That is all. There really is no magic involved. I just like to use "transformation" as a term in order to point out that visualization is no different than any other object manipulation. Did I address your concern? Cheers, Doru On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tudor, Thanks for the clarification. Can you comment or point a link for the mechanism to transform my data for Roassal? Because if you want to visualize big data like population or association studies input is sometimes millions of rows. Of course I am not asking you to write my parsers :)
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/26 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>
Hi Hernán,
The input should be independent from the visualization engine. Roassal offers you a way of transforming your objects into a visualization and it should not be responsible for the input formats.
Cheers, Doru
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alexandre and Ricardo,
I am glad to see your advances in Roassal visualization! I wonder which input formats do you plan to support?
Your relation tower can be used to visualize the crossover percentages between haplotype blocks. For example, here are some Haplotypes drawings from Haploview (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haploview) which may interest you:
http://www.jnsbm.org/viewimage.asp?img=JNatScBiolMed_2012_3_2_139_101887_f13... from this paper http://www.jnsbm.org/temp/JNatScBiolMed32139-5367486_145434.pdf
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/haplotypes.png
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/journal.pone_.0010207.g005....
I can send you the exported haplotypes from a study if you are interested. It contains 131 blocks which is somewhat big to attach to this list. The only problem I see is that a parser is needed to parse the Haplotype text output file, although the format should not be difficult to parse.
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
Hi!
A new builder for Roassal is coming⦠The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#!
Here are some screenshots:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.559114290841839.1073741837.3405434...
If you like these screenshots, then you know where the like button is :-)
We will have this visualization on the web, thanks to our smooth and nice Pharo2Amber migration process.
Any idea on how to extend/apply Relation tower? Any set of data you want us to play with? Your data? Feedback are very welcome!
Cheers, Ricardo & Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Hi Tudor. This is clearer now. Let me rewrite my concern so you can have a better understanding. I have been reviewing the Roassal code and resulted very clear to me how to get a visualization by scripting. But I am afraid that you would get better feedback from scientists using MATLAB, R and similar software every day. Most of them, I presume, didn't hear about Smalltalk or Moose. Having a more directed bridge to attract them would pay off. See for example what people is doing behind the University of Florida http://www2.research.att.com/~yifanhu/gallery/indexAll.html (first hit for "visualizing big matrices" in Google). They're using MATLAB, Rutherford/Boeing and MatrixMarket formats http://www.cise.ufl.edu/research/sparse/matrices/ Please don't get me wrong, I am not asking you or anyone to implement such layer. I am saying it would be nice to have more Smalltalkers to build these missing pieces. What can we do about it? BTW I've just found another inspirational picture for the relation tower: http://biopython.org/DIST/docs/tutorial/images/tRNA_chrom.png Cheers, Hernán 2013/12/27 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>
Hi,
I think there is a little confusion here.
I meant to say that Roassal allows you to map your whatever objects onto a visualization. How you do this mapping is completely up to you. If you have a million objects, you will have to do some preprocessing yourself. That is all. There really is no magic involved. I just like to use "transformation" as a term in order to point out that visualization is no different than any other object manipulation.
Did I address your concern?
Cheers, Doru
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tudor, Thanks for the clarification. Can you comment or point a link for the mechanism to transform my data for Roassal? Because if you want to visualize big data like population or association studies input is sometimes millions of rows. Of course I am not asking you to write my parsers :)
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/26 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>
Hi Hernán,
The input should be independent from the visualization engine. Roassal offers you a way of transforming your objects into a visualization and it should not be responsible for the input formats.
Cheers, Doru
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alexandre and Ricardo,
I am glad to see your advances in Roassal visualization! I wonder which input formats do you plan to support?
Your relation tower can be used to visualize the crossover percentages between haplotype blocks. For example, here are some Haplotypes drawings from Haploview (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haploview) which may interest you:
http://www.jnsbm.org/viewimage.asp?img=JNatScBiolMed_2012_3_2_139_101887_f13... from this paper http://www.jnsbm.org/temp/JNatScBiolMed32139-5367486_145434.pdf
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/haplotypes.png
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/journal.pone_.0010207.g005....
I can send you the exported haplotypes from a study if you are interested. It contains 131 blocks which is somewhat big to attach to this list. The only problem I see is that a parser is needed to parse the Haplotype text output file, although the format should not be difficult to parse.
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
Hi!
A new builder for Roassal is coming⦠The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#!
Here are some screenshots:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.559114290841839.1073741837.3405434...
If you like these screenshots, then you know where the like button is :-)
We will have this visualization on the web, thanks to our smooth and nice Pharo2Amber migration process.
Any idea on how to extend/apply Relation tower? Any set of data you want us to play with? Your data? Feedback are very welcome!
Cheers, Ricardo & Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
Hi Hernán, Sorry for coming so late on this. You are raising a good problem. Indeed, to approach a specific domain, you can benefit greatly from an integrated solution that contains predefined parsers and models for known formats. This is what we try to achieve with Moose (see here an overview http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/moose-custom-analyses-made-easy). The poster child of Moose is software analysis and for that we have parsers, models and dedicated analyses that come out of the box. So, for your case, if you have a specific data format and model, you would indeed benefit from having it available. And you are right that this makes it easier for people that want to click fast to play with a tool. However, even for the case of software analysis, we argue that the predefined tools do not get you very far, and this is why we offer the possibility of building your own tools. Cheers, Doru On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tudor. This is clearer now. Let me rewrite my concern so you can have a better understanding. I have been reviewing the Roassal code and resulted very clear to me how to get a visualization by scripting.
But I am afraid that you would get better feedback from scientists using MATLAB, R and similar software every day. Most of them, I presume, didn't hear about Smalltalk or Moose. Having a more directed bridge to attract them would pay off. See for example what people is doing behind the University of Florida http://www2.research.att.com/~yifanhu/gallery/indexAll.html (first hit for "visualizing big matrices" in Google). They're using MATLAB, Rutherford/Boeing and MatrixMarket formats http://www.cise.ufl.edu/research/sparse/matrices/
Please don't get me wrong, I am not asking you or anyone to implement such layer. I am saying it would be nice to have more Smalltalkers to build these missing pieces. What can we do about it?
BTW I've just found another inspirational picture for the relation tower:
http://biopython.org/DIST/docs/tutorial/images/tRNA_chrom.png
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/27 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>
Hi,
I think there is a little confusion here.
I meant to say that Roassal allows you to map your whatever objects onto a visualization. How you do this mapping is completely up to you. If you have a million objects, you will have to do some preprocessing yourself. That is all. There really is no magic involved. I just like to use "transformation" as a term in order to point out that visualization is no different than any other object manipulation.
Did I address your concern?
Cheers, Doru
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tudor, Thanks for the clarification. Can you comment or point a link for the mechanism to transform my data for Roassal? Because if you want to visualize big data like population or association studies input is sometimes millions of rows. Of course I am not asking you to write my parsers :)
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/26 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>
Hi Hernán,
The input should be independent from the visualization engine. Roassal offers you a way of transforming your objects into a visualization and it should not be responsible for the input formats.
Cheers, Doru
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alexandre and Ricardo,
I am glad to see your advances in Roassal visualization! I wonder which input formats do you plan to support?
Your relation tower can be used to visualize the crossover percentages between haplotype blocks. For example, here are some Haplotypes drawings from Haploview (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haploview) which may interest you:
http://www.jnsbm.org/viewimage.asp?img=JNatScBiolMed_2012_3_2_139_101887_f13... from this paper http://www.jnsbm.org/temp/JNatScBiolMed32139-5367486_145434.pdf
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/haplotypes.png
http://www.mailund.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/journal.pone_.0010207.g005....
I can send you the exported haplotypes from a study if you are interested. It contains 131 blocks which is somewhat big to attach to this list. The only problem I see is that a parser is needed to parse the Haplotype text output file, although the format should not be difficult to parse.
Cheers,
Hernán
2013/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>
Hi!
A new builder for Roassal is coming⦠The goal of Relation tower is to easily visualize relations between group of elements. We had the inspiration from the following website http://peoplemov.in/#!
Here are some screenshots:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.559114290841839.1073741837.3405434...
If you like these screenshots, then you know where the like button is :-)
We will have this visualization on the web, thanks to our smooth and nice Pharo2Amber migration process.
Any idea on how to extend/apply Relation tower? Any set of data you want us to play with? Your data? Feedback are very welcome!
Cheers, Ricardo & Alexandre
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participants (4)
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Alexandre Bergel -
Hernán Morales Durand -
Stéphane Ducasse -
Tudor Girba