Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file
pavel sent a graphiz image. On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:02 PM, YossiDM wrote:
Thanks, I'll try to dig that up - sounds like a good starting point. I am definitely looking to do the second option you mentioned which is to mirror the image so I can just use standard tools. Our app is mainly from seaside, so that would be the ideal way for me, though I can imagine us doing some things inside the image in morphic as well. I could batch out analysis as a job of some kind, but I would rather have real-time analysis.
Eliot Miranda-2 wrote:
very recently someone posted a link to a complete visualization of an image to pdf, I think on the squeak list. So yes, there are tools to do this. You can also load an image using the VMMaker and analyse it in that. Of course a really nice ay would be a mirror interface to the image so one could use standard tools to inspect it, but that's real work.
HTH Eliot
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Hi, you need to run the image to get its ImageMap or ImageGraph. However in times of Squeak 3.6 there was a tool named ImageBrowser (http://www.is.titech.ac.jp/~ohshima/squeak/sm/ImageBrowser3.6.1.cs.gz). You can browse specified classes from the image file using this tool. Unfortunately it works only for Squeak 3.6. I tried it now and it really works but it is obsolete. I'm not sure how hard it would be to update it for current image format. -- Pavel On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
pavel sent a graphiz image.
On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:02 PM, YossiDM wrote:
Thanks, I'll try to dig that up - sounds like a good starting point. I am definitely looking to do the second option you mentioned which is to mirror the image so I can just use standard tools. Our app is mainly from seaside, so that would be the ideal way for me, though I can imagine us doing some things inside the image in morphic as well. I could batch out analysis as a job of some kind, but I would rather have real-time analysis.
Eliot Miranda-2 wrote:
very recently someone posted a link to a complete visualization of an image to pdf, I think on the squeak list. Â So yes, there are tools to do this. You can also load an image using the VMMaker and analyse it in that. Of course a really nice ay would be a mirror interface to the image so one could use standard tools to inspect it, but that's real work.
HTH Eliot
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Pavel, Thanks! This is at least a start so it might be helpful even if we don't update it directly. Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote:
Hi,
you need to run the image to get its ImageMap or ImageGraph.
However in times of Squeak 3.6 there was a tool named ImageBrowser (http://www.is.titech.ac.jp/~ohshima/squeak/sm/ImageBrowser3.6.1.cs.gz). You can browse specified classes from the image file using this tool. Unfortunately it works only for Squeak 3.6. I tried it now and it really works but it is obsolete. I'm not sure how hard it would be to update it for current image format.
-- Pavel
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
pavel sent a graphiz image.
On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:02 PM, YossiDM wrote:
Thanks, I'll try to dig that up - sounds like a good starting point. I am definitely looking to do the second option you mentioned which is to mirror the image so I can just use standard tools. Our app is mainly from seaside, so that would be the ideal way for me, though I can imagine us doing some things inside the image in morphic as well. I could batch out analysis as a job of some kind, but I would rather have real-time analysis.
Eliot Miranda-2 wrote:
very recently someone posted a link to a complete visualization of an image to pdf, I think on the squeak list. Â So yes, there are tools to do this. You can also load an image using the VMMaker and analyse it in that. Of course a really nice ay would be a mirror interface to the image so one could use standard tools to inspect it, but that's real work.
HTH Eliot
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