Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that it is important to create a community around business questions. We created a new mailing-list http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org The idea is to identify - potential market - missing technical solutions that we could build together - share technical assets from a business perspective (which frameworks for what). We hope that you will like the idea and that more business can emerge!
I'm in :) 2014-02-26 20:05 GMT+01:00 Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr>:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world
We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that it is important to create a community around business questions. We created a new mailing-list
http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org
The idea is to identify - potential market - missing technical solutions that we could build together - share technical assets from a business perspective (which frameworks for what).
We hope that you will like the idea and that more business can emerge!
Hi Stef, Can you explain what's the purpose of this list? I don't fully get it. What is to be discussed there? Market for Pharo? Derived businesses from pharo? (like pharocloud?). Thank you! Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2014-02-26 16:05 GMT-03:00 Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr>:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world
We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that it is important to create a community around business questions. We created a new mailing-list
http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org
The idea is to identify - potential market - missing technical solutions that we could build together - share technical assets from a business perspective (which frameworks for what).
We hope that you will like the idea and that more business can emerge!
Make a list where the main point is about industry issues, share knowledge and experience about general implications of pharo in a full project. Recommend frameworks for specific domains. And then also soft knowledge, know who is working with pharo in business to know to who ask for help in case of over. What we will gain is as beginning, order in our knowledge database. Then knowledge related with pharo but not from technical point, but business. Finally, the Pharo powered is about 'branding'. In both cases we are getting knowledge scoped and ordered and almost free, more visible movement related. 2014-02-26 21:27 GMT+01:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com>:
Hi Stef,
Can you explain what's the purpose of this list?
I don't fully get it. What is to be discussed there? Market for Pharo? Derived businesses from pharo? (like pharocloud?).
Thank you!
Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-02-26 16:05 GMT-03:00 Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr>:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world
We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that it is important to create a community around business questions. We created a new mailing-list
http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org
The idea is to identify - potential market - missing technical solutions that we could build together - share technical assets from a business perspective (which
frameworks for what).
We hope that you will like the idea and that more business can emerge!
I don't see the point of having another list, I don't see many business related topics going on in the dev or users lists. In fact they have moderate traffic (and could even converge). However, if the idea is to foster business talk, maybe a separate list is okay. I'm in. Esteban A. Maringolo 2014-02-26 17:45 GMT-03:00 Santiago Bragagnolo <santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com>:
Make a list where the main point is about industry issues, share knowledge and experience about general implications of pharo in a full project. Recommend frameworks for specific domains. And then also soft knowledge, know who is working with pharo in business to know to who ask for help in case of over.
What we will gain is as beginning, order in our knowledge database. Then knowledge related with pharo but not from technical point, but business.
Finally, the Pharo powered is about 'branding'. In both cases we are getting knowledge scoped and ordered and almost free, more visible movement related.
2014-02-26 21:27 GMT+01:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com>:
Hi Stef,
Can you explain what's the purpose of this list?
I don't fully get it. What is to be discussed there? Market for Pharo? Derived businesses from pharo? (like pharocloud?).
Thank you!
Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-02-26 16:05 GMT-03:00 Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr>:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world
We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that it is important to create a community around business questions. We created a new mailing-list
http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org
The idea is to identify - potential market - missing technical solutions that we could build together - share technical assets from a business perspective (which frameworks for what).
We hope that you will like the idea and that more business can emerge!
Hi, You will not get people to send business ideas in a development list :). We need to start the conversation of what makes Pharo profitable as opposed to geeky cool. The mailing is an effort in this direction. Doru On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't see the point of having another list, I don't see many business related topics going on in the dev or users lists. In fact they have moderate traffic (and could even converge).
However, if the idea is to foster business talk, maybe a separate list is okay.
I'm in. Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-02-26 17:45 GMT-03:00 Santiago Bragagnolo < santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com>:
Make a list where the main point is about industry issues, share knowledge and experience about general implications of pharo in a full project. Recommend frameworks for specific domains. And then also soft knowledge, know who is working with pharo in business to know to who ask for help in case of over.
What we will gain is as beginning, order in our knowledge database. Then knowledge related with pharo but not from technical point, but business.
Finally, the Pharo powered is about 'branding'. In both cases we are getting knowledge scoped and ordered and almost free, more visible movement related.
2014-02-26 21:27 GMT+01:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com>:
Hi Stef,
Can you explain what's the purpose of this list?
I don't fully get it. What is to be discussed there? Market for Pharo? Derived businesses from pharo? (like pharocloud?).
Thank you!
Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-02-26 16:05 GMT-03:00 Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr>:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world
We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that it is important to create a community around business questions. We created a new mailing-list
http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org
The idea is to identify - potential market - missing technical solutions that we could build together - share technical assets from a business perspective (which frameworks for what).
We hope that you will like the idea and that more business can emerge!
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Exactly. But it is a step. In a polyglot IT environment (Java , CRuby, Python, Scala, Perl, R...) there is a place for Pharo I am sure. Especially for dealing with 'meta' things with a fast delivery cycle. Phil On Thursday, February 27, 2014, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
You will not get people to send business ideas in a development list :).
We need to start the conversation of what makes Pharo profitable as opposed to geeky cool. The mailing is an effort in this direction.
Doru
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo < emaringolo@gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','emaringolo@gmail.com');>
wrote:
I don't see the point of having another list, I don't see many business related topics going on in the dev or users lists. In fact they have moderate traffic (and could even converge).
However, if the idea is to foster business talk, maybe a separate list is okay.
I'm in. Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-02-26 17:45 GMT-03:00 Santiago Bragagnolo < santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com');>
: Make a list where the main point is about industry issues, share knowledge and experience about general implications of pharo in a full project. Recommend frameworks for specific domains. And then also soft knowledge, know who is working with pharo in business to know to who ask for help in case of over.
What we will gain is as beginning, order in our knowledge database. Then knowledge related with pharo but not from technical point, but business.
Finally, the Pharo powered is about 'branding'. In both cases we are getting knowledge scoped and ordered and almost free, more visible movement related.
2014-02-26 21:27 GMT+01:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','emaringolo@gmail.com');> :
Hi Stef,
Can you explain what's the purpose of this list?
I don't fully get it. What is to be discussed there? Market for Pharo? Derived businesses from pharo? (like pharocloud?).
Thank you!
Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-02-26 16:05 GMT-03:00 Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pharo4Stef@free.fr');> :
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world
We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that it is important to create a community around business questions. We created a new mailing-list
http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org
The idea is to identify - potential market - missing technical solutions that we could build together - share technical assets from a business perspective (which frameworks for what).
We hope that you will like the idea and that more business can
emerge!
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- --- Philippe Back Visible Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - http://spamcast.libsyn.com Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller
I applaud the initiative. Business and connections is the point. Also connecting with business. Yesterday I was in http://www.startupfoz.com/ and talked with many people about startups and investing an technology (and doing business with technology). One of the guys I talked to was from the TI-APL (Productive Local Array of TI companies) and they told me they started having meeting with no idea of what they were doing nor what to do. One of the companies that belong to this array has 5000 employees and produce software for all around the globe and being in the array puts you at 1 hop of social distance of top notch connections and strategic business advice. Do you know what theyâve said to me after 5m talk? We need more people with your thinking in the APL, last year we didnât even know what a startup is, you can help us get were are we going. Today theyâre the biggest APL of TI companies in Brazil and because they have become so big they are consulted on budgetary decisions from time to time. Thatâs how theyâve ended up sponsoring StartupFoz. Now if that happened to me in one of many casual talks in a meetup, the questing I want to leave here is this: how many other smalltalkers anywhere can get into positions of influence? When you listen first, people listens back and you might be surprised by how they react when you explain things making sense. We might have no idea now about the point But connections and business is the point Also connecting with business is the point People are socialising technology and coding already to bootstrap their next businesses: https://koding.com/ So if we donât do that with the smalltalk spirit⦠who will? Here.. have something that will help you predict the future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wadBvDPeE4E On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:13 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't see the point of having another list, I don't see many business related topics going on in the dev or users lists. In fact they have moderate traffic (and could even converge).
However, if the idea is to foster business talk, maybe a separate list is okay.
I'm in. Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-02-26 17:45 GMT-03:00 Santiago Bragagnolo <santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com>:
Make a list where the main point is about industry issues, share knowledge and experience about general implications of pharo in a full project. Recommend frameworks for specific domains. And then also soft knowledge, know who is working with pharo in business to know to who ask for help in case of over.
What we will gain is as beginning, order in our knowledge database. Then knowledge related with pharo but not from technical point, but business.
Finally, the Pharo powered is about 'branding'. In both cases we are getting knowledge scoped and ordered and almost free, more visible movement related.
2014-02-26 21:27 GMT+01:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com>:
Hi Stef,
Can you explain what's the purpose of this list?
I don't fully get it. What is to be discussed there? Market for Pharo? Derived businesses from pharo? (like pharocloud?).
Thank you!
Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-02-26 16:05 GMT-03:00 Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr>:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world
We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that it is important to create a community around business questions. We created a new mailing-list
http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org
The idea is to identify - potential market - missing technical solutions that we could build together - share technical assets from a business perspective (which frameworks for what).
We hope that you will like the idea and that more business can emerge!
On 26 Feb 2014, at 21:27, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Stef,
Can you explain what's the purpose of this list?
I don't fully get it. What is to be discussed there? Market for Pharo? Derived businesses from pharo? (like pharocloud?).
Thank you!
The idea is - discuss business opportunities may be you identify a sector where there is something nice to do but one package is missing (like a mapping to x or z) may be you develop a solution and you would like to build partnership with another company so have more sell in part of the world were you will never be able to sell it. - discuss different set up and use of server/library/frameworks - share needs/how to/problems with a business focus I hope that it answers your question stef
We should use something Smalltalk Powered instead of Python Powered for the list. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Business-a-new-mailing-list-tp4746585p4746618.ht... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Am 26.02.2014 um 21:33 schrieb askoh <askoh@askoh.com>:
We should use something Smalltalk Powered instead of Python Powered for the list.
I like to completely disagree. If you need to write every software in your own language before you can use it you wonât achieve much IMHO. There is pretty decent software to use for all sorts of applications. And it is fine if it is written in another language. Letâs use this python thingie because there is no smalltalk replacement at this time and we donât need to be in every corner of the industry. Let us concentrate on the areas where we truly excel. my 2 cents, Norbert
there is nothing already done for lists in any smalltalk?? 2014-02-26 21:41 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name>:
Am 26.02.2014 um 21:33 schrieb askoh <askoh@askoh.com>:
We should use something Smalltalk Powered instead of Python Powered for the list.
I like to completely disagree. If you need to write every software in your own language before you can use it you won't achieve much IMHO. There is pretty decent software to use for all sorts of applications. And it is fine if it is written in another language. Let's use this python thingie because there is no smalltalk replacement at this time and we don't need to be in every corner of the industry. Let us concentrate on the areas where we truly excel.
my 2 cents,
Norbert
Thanks Stef! Doru On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr> wrote:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world
We would really like to push business in our community and we believe that it is important to create a community around business questions. We created a new mailing-list
http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org
The idea is to identify - potential market - missing technical solutions that we could build together - share technical assets from a business perspective (which frameworks for what).
We hope that you will like the idea and that more business can emerge!
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Pharo4Stef wrote
We created a new mailing-list http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org
I added a Nabble mirror: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Business-f4746902.html ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Business-a-new-mailing-list-tp4746585p4746907.ht... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
tx! On 28 Feb 2014, at 06:24, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
Pharo4Stef wrote
We created a new mailing-list http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org
I added a Nabble mirror: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Business-f4746902.html
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Business-a-new-mailing-list-tp4746585p4746907.ht... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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