I applaud the initiative.

Business and connections is the point.

Also connecting with business.

Yesterday I was in http://www.startupfoz.com/ and talked with many people about startups and investing an technology (and doing business with technology).

One of the guys I talked to was from the TI-APL (Productive Local Array of TI companies) and they told me they started having meeting with no idea of what they were doing nor what to do.

One of the companies that belong to this array has 5000 employees and produce software for all around the globe and being in the array puts you at 1 hop of social distance of top notch connections and strategic business advice.

Do you know what they�ve said to me after 5m talk?

We need more people with your thinking in the APL, last year we didn�t even know what a startup is, you can help us get were are we going.

Today they�re the biggest APL of TI companies in Brazil and because they have become so big they are consulted on budgetary decisions from time to time. That�s how they�ve ended up sponsoring StartupFoz.

Now if that happened to me in one of many casual talks in a meetup, the questing I want to leave here is this:

how many other smalltalkers anywhere can get into positions of influence?

When you listen first, people listens back and you might be surprised by how they react when you explain things making sense.

We might have no idea now about the point

But connections and business is the point

Also connecting with business is the point

People are socialising technology and coding already to bootstrap their next businesses: https://koding.com/

So if we don�t do that with the smalltalk spirit� 

who will?

Here.. have something that will help you predict the future:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wadBvDPeE4E






On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:13 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't see the point of having another list, I don't see many
business related topics going on in the dev or users lists. In fact
they have moderate traffic (and could even converge).

However, if the idea is to foster business talk, maybe a separate list is okay.

I'm in.
Esteban A. Maringolo


2014-02-26 17:45 GMT-03:00 Santiago Bragagnolo <santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com>:
Make a list where the main point is about industry issues, share knowledge
and experience about general implications of pharo in a full project.
Recommend frameworks for specific domains. And then also soft knowledge,
know who is working with pharo in business to know to who ask for help in
case of over.

What we will gain is as beginning, order in our knowledge database. Then
knowledge related with pharo but not from technical point, but business.

Finally, the Pharo powered is about 'branding'. In both cases we are getting
knowledge scoped and ordered and almost free, more visible movement related.






2014-02-26 21:27 GMT+01:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com>:

Hi Stef,

Can you explain what's the purpose of this list?

I don't fully get it. What is to be discussed there? Market for Pharo?
Derived businesses from pharo? (like pharocloud?).

Thank you!


Regards!
Esteban A. Maringolo


2014-02-26 16:05 GMT-03:00 Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr>:
Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers from all over the world

We would really like to push business in our community and we believe
that it is important to create a community around business questions.
We created a new mailing-list


http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-business_lists.pharo.org

The idea is to identify
       - potential market
       - missing technical solutions that we could build together
       - share technical assets from a business perspective (which
frameworks for what).

We hope that you will like the idea and that more business can emerge!