Updating lists.pharo.org: New server, Mailman3 and more
Hi, We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>) -> New server, thus: new IP⦠-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive I will do the change of the IP address today. The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent. I will send another mail when it is done. Marcus
Testing if this is send via the new server⦠the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org> Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi,
We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>)
-> New server, thus: new IP⦠-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive
I will do the change of the IP address today.
The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.
I will send another mail when it is done.
Marcus
So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon). But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again. Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
Testing if this is send via the new server⦠the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org>
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Hi,
We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>)
-> New server, thus: new IP⦠-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive
I will do the change of the IP address today.
The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.
I will send another mail when it is done.
Marcus
Migration is Complete! If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to. https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).
But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Testing if this is send via the new server⦠the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org>
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Hi,
We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>)
-> New server, thus: new IP⦠-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive
I will do the change of the IP address today.
The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.
I will send another mail when it is done.
Marcus
marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. Apparently the archive is still private.
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
Migration is Complete!
If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.
https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).
But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Testing if this is send via the new server⦠the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org>
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Hi,
We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>)
-> New server, thus: new IP⦠-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive
I will do the change of the IP address today.
The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.
I will send another mail when it is done.
Marcus
-------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now. Marcus
On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. Apparently the archive is still private.
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Migration is Complete!
If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.
https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).
But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Testing if this is send via the new server⦠the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org>
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Hi,
We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>)
-> New server, thus: new IP⦠-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive
I will do the change of the IP address today.
The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.
I will send another mail when it is done.
Marcus
-------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now.
Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a dedicated email. I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly browsable on planet Smalltalk. Or Iâm wrong. S.
Marcus
On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote:
marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. Apparently the archive is still private.
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Migration is Complete!
If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.
https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).
But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Testing if this is send via the new server⦠the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org>
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Hi,
We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>)
-> New server, thus: new IP⦠-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive
I will do the change of the IP address today.
The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.
I will send another mail when it is done.
Marcus
-------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
-------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
forum.world.st doesn't disclose publicly people's emails. If you let people emails in the open they will be grabbed sooner or later by some spam bot. If the new mailing list interface can be configured to not show in plain sight the sender's email it's a good idea to do it. On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 14:46 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now.
Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a dedicated email. I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly browsable on planet Smalltalk. Or Iâm wrong.
S.
Marcus
On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. Apparently the archive is still private.
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
Migration is Complete!
If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).
But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
Testing if this is send via the new server⦠the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi,
We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/)
-> New server, thus: new IP⦠-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive
I will do the change of the IP address today.
The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.
I will send another mail when it is done.
Marcus
-------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
-------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
Mailman does have an option to "obscure_addresses" in the web interface. I don't recall exactly *how* obscure it makes them; the documentation says "This should reduce the opportunity for email address harvesting by spammers, although it probably does not eliminate it." Regards, -Martin On 9/17/20 11:34 AM, Gabriel Cotelli wrote:
forum.world.st <http://forum.world.st> doesn't disclose publicly people's emails. If you let people emails in the open they will be grabbed sooner or later by some spam bot. If the new mailing list interface can be configured to not show in plain sight the sender's email it's a good idea to do it.
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 14:46 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote:
Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now.
Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a dedicated email. I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly browsable on planet Smalltalk. Or Iâm wrong.
S.
Marcus
On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote:
marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. Apparently the archive is still private.
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Migration is Complete!
If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.
https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).
But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Testing if this is send via the new server⦠the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Hi,
We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/)
-> New server, thus: new IP⦠-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive
I will do the change of the IP address today.
The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.
I will send another mail when it is done.
Marcus
-------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
-------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
Yes, we had that enabled with the old setup. The only thing is did was to change the @ into â at â. I checked the new mailman3 config and there is nothing to configure.. I will check with he provider if they have any suggestions. Marcus
On 18 Sep 2020, at 00:19, Martin McClure <martin@hand2mouse.com> wrote:
Mailman does have an option to "obscure_addresses" in the web interface. I don't recall exactly *how* obscure it makes them; the documentation says "This should reduce the opportunity for email address harvesting by spammers, although it probably does not eliminate it."
Regards, -Martin
On 9/17/20 11:34 AM, Gabriel Cotelli wrote:
forum.world.st <http://forum.world.st/> doesn't disclose publicly people's emails. If you let people emails in the open they will be grabbed sooner or later by some spam bot. If the new mailing list interface can be configured to not show in plain sight the sender's email it's a good idea to do it.
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 14:46 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote:
Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now.
Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a dedicated email. I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly browsable on planet Smalltalk. Or Iâm wrong.
S.
Marcus
On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote:
marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. Apparently the archive is still private.
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Migration is Complete!
If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.
https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).
But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Testing if this is send via the new server⦠the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org>
Marcus
On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
Hi,
We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>)
-> New server, thus: new IP⦠-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive
I will do the change of the IP address today.
The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.
I will send another mail when it is done.
Marcus
-------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
-------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
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