Hi Graham

How about PharoAfar

g

can you explain it?

stepharong wrote:

...

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some ideas for a cool name. Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product). Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

Stef

--

RemoPharo. Short for remote Pharo. Brad Selfridge 913-269-2385

On Jan 29, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Graham McLeod <graham@inspired.org> wrote:

OR better: TeleCode

Graham

Graham McLeod wrote:

...

How about PharoAfar

g

stepharong wrote:

...

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some ideas for a cool name. Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product). Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

Stef

--

<graham.vcf>

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 16:24:03 +0100, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:

Apostasis (Greek for distance) Background ( playing with words Playground and back end )Parallax ( distance viewed from two point [eg eyes])Apex ( tip of)Outpost (distant place)HyperOcean ( another Greek word for a thing that can cross oceans , oceans here being surfing the Internet)Telemachus or Telemachos ( son of Odyssey, his name means in Ancient Greek , the one who fights from a distance , tale means distance , telephone = voice from a distance , television = vision >from a distance etc. )

may telepharo :) Stef

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 at 16:15, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:

...

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some ideas for a cool name. Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product). Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

Stef

--

-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

2017-01-30 7:58 GMT+01:00 phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be>:

Codero Proxyion Proxemote Evade Reon ProxyCode Remoon Reode Phreode Remoteon CodeRemote EvaCode Remotion Drinx Phemote Smuggler BitSmuggler

That's the list :)

On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 16:40:07 +0100, Volkert <volkert@nivoba.de> wrote:

PharoConnect?

It would convey the mean to connect ?

On 29.01.2017 15:14, stepharong wrote:

...

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some ideas for a cool name. Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product). Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

Stef

--

-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

avatar, avatools? Le 29 janv. 2017 20:01, "Torsten Bergmann" <astares@gmx.de> a écrit :

Pharo "Revaluator"

which is an artificial word: - "Re" for Remote - "eval" like evaluation of expressions for (remote) work/debugging - "Revalution" means improvement, increase in value

So far this name is not very much in use according to Google hits.

Thx T.

PharoRemoteToolSet :)

2017-01-29 22:16 GMT+01:00 Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>:

RIDE? (Remote Integrated Development Environment)

It is too common name for Robots IDE

Try https://www.penn.museum/documents/education/pennmuseum_egypt_previsit_combin... Flail looks like a good candidate . Sent from my Commodore 64

On 30 Jan 2017, at 11:06 am, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:

...

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:14 PM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote: Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some ideas for a cool name. Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product). Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

For a change, I'm lacking original ideas :P But of other suggestions, I like...

...

Phresnel from Fresnel lenses [1] used in lighthouses to be visible over greater distances Good googability and a *great* fit for Pharo's lighthouse theme. There is one competing project https://github.com/lobid/Phresnel but it looks abandoned and ranks low in searches.

...

PharoAfar Except its a bit of a tongue twist and I'd shorten it to Pharofar, and maybe Pharophar. far = at, to, or by a great distance

...

Pharoscope from Pharo + Telescope Related terms: borescope, oscilloscope, spectroscope.

So far Phresnel is my phavorite.

cheers -ben

2017-01-30 12:04 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name>:

Hi,

I really enjoy how motivated people get when it is about finding a name :)

I don't agree PharmIDE is a bad name.

I also like my original name :)

But I agree with Stef. My very first impression when I read the ANN subject line was of a pharmaceutical/medical app. Maybe a slight contraction to "PharIDE", which in common usage would probably become "pharide". Only 6k googs is not too bad. btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ? cheers -ben On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:15 PM, phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be> wrote:

Like it too FWIW.

Phil

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk@gmail.com> wrote:

...

2017-01-30 12:04 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name>:

...

Hi,

I really enjoy how motivated people get when it is about finding a name :)

I don't agree PharmIDE is a bad name.

I also like my original name :)

I'm not a big fan of cryptic names. I already think there are way too many in Pharo. You look at the names and have no idea what they do. Why not call it what it is: "Pharo Remote IDE" or "RemoteIDE". It's simple and it tells the user EXACTLY what it is without digging into some obscure document, (or no document at all). -- Brad Selfridge bsselfridge@gmail.com On 01/30/2017 08:25 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote:

2017-01-30 14:21 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>>:

btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?

First it is like farm. Seconds it is *Pha*ro *R*e*m*ote IDE

+1 to simple names. Pharo Remote. No accronym involved, no lookup to know what it means. A remote it also a noun, i.e. something you use to control your TV remotely :D If you want more details... Pharo Remote Toolkit. Tools is too abstract, toolkit is a set of tools meant to work together o a particular kind of task.. Best regards, Esteban A. Maringolo 2017-01-30 12:08 GMT-03:00 Volkert <volkert@nivoba.de>:

+100

On 30.01.2017 15:31, Brad Selfridge wrote:

I'm not a big fan of cryptic names. I already think there are way too many in Pharo. You look at the names and have no idea what they do. Why not call it what it is: "Pharo Remote IDE" or "RemoteIDE". It's simple and it tells the user EXACTLY what it is without digging into some obscure document, (or no document at all).

-- Brad Selfridge bsselfridge@gmail.com

On 01/30/2017 08:25 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote:

2017-01-30 14:21 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com>:

...

btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?

First it is like farm. Seconds it is Pharo Remote IDE

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote:

...

Am 30.01.2017 um 14:21 schrieb Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com>:

But I agree with Stef. My very first impression when I read the ANN subject line was of a pharmaceutical/medical app. Maybe a slight contraction to "PharIDE", which in common usage would probably become "pharide". Only 6k googs is not too bad.

btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk@gmail.com> wrote:

2017-01-30 14:21 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com>:

...

btw, what is the "m" for in PharmIDE ?

First it is like farm. Seconds it is Pharo Remote IDE

It is not an acronym per se but a variation of farm. So it is pharo farm. PharIDE just kills it. In this case something else would be better.

Instead you get Far-IDE. But I do like the "farm" association. So perhaps... * Pharrem which *sounds* like "farm" said real-slow like a farmer's drawl, while avoiding the pharmaceutical association. The two R's avoid it sounding like "fa-Rem". The "rem" part associates more easily with "remote" than when the "e" is dropped. cheers -ben

Norbert

...

cheers -ben

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:15 PM, phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be> wrote:

...

Like it too FWIW.

Phil

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk@gmail.com> wrote:

...

2017-01-30 12:04 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name>:

...

Hi,

I really enjoy how motivated people get when it is about finding a name :)

I don't agree PharmIDE is a bad name.

I also like my original name :)

Just for the record, the name does not matter As a matter of fact if you want the name to really sell the library/ tools then the last thing you want is a name that makes any logical sense You have much better chance to catch attention with "Pink Elephant" than "Pharo Remote tools" or whatever illogical names monopolise the software market Python Ruby on Rails Django Blender Unreal Unity Javascript Java C C++ Windows MacOS and so on Developers choose to name their projects the craziest names and wisely so the name is there to catch attention, not to make sense or come up top on google search. In the end what it matters is the code itself. Ruby On Rails did not become populary because we love ruby stones or we love go "too...tooooooo" on rails ... its popular because the library has been very useful to many people. And the name itself guarantees that it wont come up top in google search because it has nothing unique about it. The rest is just marketing ;)

Philippe invented new word Pharocket :). Maybe it is the best for this project? 2017-01-30 17:09 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com>:

Also I think its fair that the guy that wrote the code to pick the name, its his baby afterall, whether he is paid for it or not. He earned that right.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:06 PM Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Just for the record, the name does not matter

As a matter of fact if you want the name to really sell the library/ tools then the last thing you want is a name that makes any logical sense

You have much better chance to catch attention with "Pink Elephant" than "Pharo Remote tools" or whatever

illogical names monopolise the software market

Python Ruby on Rails Django Blender Unreal Unity Javascript Java C C++ Windows MacOS

and so on

Developers choose to name their projects the craziest names and wisely so

the name is there to catch attention, not to make sense or come up top on google search.

In the end what it matters is the code itself.

Ruby On Rails did not become populary because we love ruby stones or we love go "too...tooooooo" on rails ... its popular because the library has been very useful to many people.

And the name itself guarantees that it wont come up top in google search because it has nothing unique about it.

The rest is just marketing ;)

Reach remote worlds with Pharocket! Phil On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk@gmail.com> wrote:

Philippe invented new word Pharocket :). Maybe it is the best for this project?

2017-01-30 17:09 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com>:

...

Also I think its fair that the guy that wrote the code to pick the name, its his baby afterall, whether he is paid for it or not. He earned that right.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:06 PM Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Just for the record, the name does not matter

As a matter of fact if you want the name to really sell the library/ tools then the last thing you want is a name that makes any logical sense

You have much better chance to catch attention with "Pink Elephant" than "Pharo Remote tools" or whatever

illogical names monopolise the software market

Python Ruby on Rails Django Blender Unreal Unity Javascript Java C C++ Windows MacOS

and so on

Developers choose to name their projects the craziest names and wisely so

the name is there to catch attention, not to make sense or come up top on google search.

In the end what it matters is the code itself.

Ruby On Rails did not become populary because we love ruby stones or we love go "too...tooooooo" on rails ... its popular because the library has been very useful to many people.

And the name itself guarantees that it wont come up top in google search because it has nothing unique about it.

The rest is just marketing ;)

Avatools only gives ~2k results :) On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:14 PM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:

...

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get

some ideas for a cool name.

...

Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product). Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

Following a theme of "superpower remote viewing"

* Clairvoi - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvoyance 915 googs is not too bad

* Psych - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic projection 43,500,000 googs, not so good

* ESP - Extra Sensory Pharo 265,000,000 googs, bleh!

* sckrii - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrying 987 googs instead of 788,000 for Scry not too bad

* astrrall - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_projection 87 googs instead of 55,100,000 for astral not to bad, but perhaps trying a bit too hard

And btw, at home I refer to my own personal superpowers as "telepathetic"

cheers -ben

2017-01-30 14:15 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com>:

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:14 PM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:

...

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some ideas for a cool name. Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product). Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

* distann - derive from distantool, or distant tool. 2700 googs not too bad.

* ansyble - derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansible 90 googs rather than 3,130,000 googs for ansible and differentiates from competing project http://ansible.com

I vote for any name that has a relation to U.K. Le Guin books :) 3 miilions hits for a SF-invented word. Cool. Regards, Thierry

cheers -ben

If anybody ever did an `apt-cache search name` it will be clear that having a good, concise, intention revealing package name is better than having a sophisticated one. I don't see how in Pharo catalogs and other discovery/browsing mechanisms it would be different. Best regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2017-02-24 7:34 GMT-03:00 Markus Fritsche <mfritsche@reauktion.de>:

Hello,

I guess the vote is already cast, but I'd like to add my two Cents:

the packages now have a description that give an idea about what the package is supposed to do. Still, discoverability should be considered when finding a name. That's why I would prefer something like TelePharo, since the name already hints at the core functionality.

Best regards, Markus

Am 29.01.2017 15:14, schrieb stepharong:

...

Hi guys

Since we will push the remote tools (videos/web...) I would like to get some ideas for a cool name. Any ideas?

Because Pharmide (looks like medicine or chemical product). Since I vaguely remember some german Pharmide made me think about Fern(sehen) but this is not a good name.

Stef

--

I second this wholeheartedly! Everything that is used outside Pharo could have a fancy name. For internal tools and frameworks this is IMO really irritating and repellent. It is like talking in argot and creates high walls around Pharo. Andreas Am 24.02.17 um 17:18 schrieb Brad Selfridge:

I understand that if a developer is building a standalone application, (like Windows, Apache, Slack, Git, ...... PHARO !!! ), then a fuzzy-wuzzy name may make sense. But, there are so many packages that are built for Pharo/Squeak use only, that have cryptic names and no descriptions. This drives me crazy. I see all these package names spewn about and I have no idea what they are. I look on the Pharo website - no explanation. I look on Git - often times little to no explanation. I look on SmalltalkHub - little to no explanation...etc. I look on Catalog Browser - absolutely NO explanation. The only way to find out is start texting message boards or load the code and study the crap out of it just trying to figure out that - "oops, I didn't really want that loaded at all".

With that said, the creator has the right to name their creation anything they want. Just understand, that we ARE wanting to grow our exposure and the we need to make this as easy and pain free as possible.

----- Brad Selfridge -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Any-idea-for-a-cool-name-for-the-remote-tool-suite-tp4... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Andreas Wacknitz wrote

Everything that is used outside Pharo could have a fancy name. For internal tools and frameworks this is... like talking in argot and creates high walls around Pharo.

+100 ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Any-idea-for-a-cool-name-for-the-remote-tool-suite-tp4... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.