Seems that it was renamed? Any hints of the tools I should look at to find the rank of something in a distribution? -cam On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Cameron Sanders via Pharo-dev < pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cameron Sanders <camsanders@aol.com> To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> Cc: Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 13:46:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Call about Numerical Methods in Pharo :) So was SciSmalltalk renamed? -cam

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:

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It is understandable that over time an own identity for Pharo is helpful (especially because of the bad Smalltalk marketing, failures of commercial vendors in the past, ...). But also no one can not deny/hide the original roots of Pharo: the primary foundations with pure objects all the way down and messages and concepts just plain Smalltalk. Same for the basic class hierarchy, ...

So this discussion is useless, especially because Pharo still lacks many of the features a portable, integratable environment should have (and that Smalltalk failed to deliver, at least in a common way). We should not confuse wishes/dreams with existing state of the technology and facts.

Also why discuss about this now again? Did we discuss about renaming SUnit into PUnit? No. This just burns our cycles.

For the marketing part there is a primary question to be answered: what are the (business) problems Pharo can solve. At least if we want Pharo to be commercially viable and get money (not only our own) into the community. This is the part that was answered by other languages and technologies so far and the simple reason why they are used: even when they are ugly they solve a problem.

Nonetheless: ============ If there is a rename I would suggest to rename "SciSmalltalk" into "Polymath". - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymath - it can be applied to many subject areas - would be related to Math and science - would also have a "P" like Pharo in the name - Da Vinci was a polymath person, as well as Imhotep :)

Bye T.