[ANN]: EventRecorderMorph Port to 3.0
If you don't know EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (which I didn't and started to re-implement), they are super cool. 1. DoIt: "EventRecorderMorph new openInWorld" 2. Click "record" in the GUI 3. Perform some UI actions 4. Click "play" in the GUI Your keyboard and mouse actions will be replayed in the World! I know right?! Amazing. This could be really cool for live documentation and executable screencasts :) It's just a straight port now, but I'd like to decouple the recorder and replay hand so that any event source can be used. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/EventRecorder Initial commit: port EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (originally in MorphicExtras-AdditionalSupport) to Pharo 3.0 ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
That could be also cool for testing UI :P Ben On 13 Jan 2014, at 00:14, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
If you don't know EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (which I didn't and started to re-implement), they are super cool.
1. DoIt: "EventRecorderMorph new openInWorld" 2. Click "record" in the GUI 3. Perform some UI actions 4. Click "play" in the GUI
Your keyboard and mouse actions will be replayed in the World! I know right?! Amazing. This could be really cool for live documentation and executable screencasts :)
It's just a straight port now, but I'd like to decouple the recorder and replay hand so that any event source can be used.
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/EventRecorder
Initial commit: port EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (originally in MorphicExtras-AdditionalSupport) to Pharo 3.0
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Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote
That could be also cool for testing UI :P
Yes!!! ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258p4736261.h... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'EventRecorder'; package: 'EventRecorder'; load. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258p4736262.h... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
And here's a short screencast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZIDs0mukpM ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258p4736267.h... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
I added an icon, menu item for world menu and cleaned up a little bit. Have no commit rights on PharoExtras - so attached is the new version. A config for config browser and Pharo like gray buttons would be cool to have too. Thanks T.
Cool! This is really interesting to have. Executable screencasts... I'll do that next time for teaching with Pharo :) Thierry Le 13/01/2014 04:14, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit :
If you don't know EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (which I didn't and started to re-implement), they are super cool.
1. DoIt: "EventRecorderMorph new openInWorld" 2. Click "record" in the GUI 3. Perform some UI actions 4. Click "play" in the GUI
Your keyboard and mouse actions will be replayed in the World! I know right?! Amazing. This could be really cool for live documentation and executable screencasts :)
It's just a straight port now, but I'd like to decouple the recorder and replay hand so that any event source can be used.
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/EventRecorder
Initial commit: port EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (originally in MorphicExtras-AdditionalSupport) to Pharo 3.0
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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I am working on a similar thing (without the replaying feature). I am interested in profiling (i.e., recording) some morphic events. I will look into this existing recorder, thanks for sharing. Cheers, R On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Cool! This is really interesting to have.
Executable screencasts... I'll do that next time for teaching with Pharo :)
Thierry
Le 13/01/2014 04:14, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit :
If you don't know EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (which I didn't and started to re-implement), they are super cool.
1. DoIt: "EventRecorderMorph new openInWorld" 2. Click "record" in the GUI 3. Perform some UI actions 4. Click "play" in the GUI
Your keyboard and mouse actions will be replayed in the World! I know right?! Amazing. This could be really cool for live documentation and executable screencasts :)
It's just a straight port now, but I'd like to decouple the recorder and replay hand so that any event source can be used.
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/EventRecorder
Initial commit: port EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (originally in MorphicExtras-AdditionalSupport) to Pharo 3.0
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Le 13/01/2014 10:09, roberto.minelli@usi.ch a écrit :
I am working on a similar thing (without the replaying feature). I am interested in profiling (i.e., recording) some morphic events.
I use a tracing framework I wrote a long time ago for things like that. It's called Jejak (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ThierryGoubier/Jejak) and has the ability to trace and record events from running code, even critical code like Morphic. I'm updating it for Pharo3 at the moment. And it would be great to use the new Opal facilities for doing so... at the moment, it's working by code rewriting (which is a very portable approach). Thierry
I will look into this existing recorder, thanks for sharing.
Cheers, R
On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Cool! This is really interesting to have.
Executable screencasts... I'll do that next time for teaching with Pharo :)
Thierry
Le 13/01/2014 04:14, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit :
If you don't know EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (which I didn't and started to re-implement), they are super cool.
1. DoIt: "EventRecorderMorph new openInWorld" 2. Click "record" in the GUI 3. Perform some UI actions 4. Click "play" in the GUI
Your keyboard and mouse actions will be replayed in the World! I know right?! Amazing. This could be really cool for live documentation and executable screencasts :)
It's just a straight port now, but I'd like to decouple the recorder and replay hand so that any event source can be used.
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/EventRecorder
Initial commit: port EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (originally in MorphicExtras-AdditionalSupport) to Pharo 3.0
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Guys you are awesome, thanks for this. I can use this for my documentation project (Prometheas), live documentation that show you how to get things done by replaying commands . This is too good to be true. Though with the rate new libraries have been poping up lately you will actually write the code for me :D I am thinking in the right side a small area that will work as a tooltip displaying a paragraph of documentation with a Try me button to replay recorded tutorials, preferably with the showing code as example. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr>wrote:
Le 13/01/2014 10:09, roberto.minelli@usi.ch a écrit :
I am working on a similar thing (without the replaying feature).
I am interested in profiling (i.e., recording) some morphic events.
I use a tracing framework I wrote a long time ago for things like that. It's called Jejak (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ThierryGoubier/Jejak) and has the ability to trace and record events from running code, even critical code like Morphic.
I'm updating it for Pharo3 at the moment. And it would be great to use the new Opal facilities for doing so... at the moment, it's working by code rewriting (which is a very portable approach).
Thierry
I will look into this existing recorder, thanks for sharing.
Cheers, R
On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Cool! This is really interesting to have.
Executable screencasts... I'll do that next time for teaching with Pharo :)
Thierry
Le 13/01/2014 04:14, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit :
If you don't know EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (which I didn't and started to re-implement), they are super cool.
1. DoIt: "EventRecorderMorph new openInWorld" 2. Click "record" in the GUI 3. Perform some UI actions 4. Click "play" in the GUI
Your keyboard and mouse actions will be replayed in the World! I know right?! Amazing. This could be really cool for live documentation and executable screencasts :)
It's just a straight port now, but I'd like to decouple the recorder and replay hand so that any event source can be used.
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/EventRecorder
Initial commit: port EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (originally in MorphicExtras-AdditionalSupport) to Pharo 3.0
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN- EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Le 13/01/2014 13:53, kilon alios a écrit :
Guys you are awesome, thanks for this. I can use this for my documentation project (Prometheas), live documentation that show you how to get things done by replaying commands . This is too good to be true. Though with the rate new libraries have been poping up lately you will actually write the code for me :D
I am thinking in the right side a small area that will work as a tooltip displaying a paragraph of documentation with a Try me button to replay recorded tutorials, preferably with the showing code as example.
That would be a very interesting use of it :) Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
I am working on the same thing. I have a window that shows all the available shortcuts in the current context. The next step is to use EventRecorderMorph to show screencasts for the different commands. I wrote my own screencast implementation, but I like EventRecorderMorph much better because it uses a real hand morph. Now I will integrate it with the UI script class I have, so that you can programmatically describe the events instead of recording them manually. An outstanding problem is how to scale the pasteupmorph so you can have any size screencast you want whole still working. We should synchronize... -------- Original message -------- From: "kilon alios [via Smalltalk]" <ml-node+s1294792n4736364h72@n4.nabble.com> Date: 01/13/2014 7:54 AM (GMT-05:00) To: "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean@clipperadams.com> Subject: Re: [ANN]: EventRecorderMorph Port to 3.0 Guys you are awesome, thanks for this. I can use this for my documentation project (Prometheas), live documentation that show you how to get things done by replaying commands . This is too good to be true. Though with the rate new libraries have been poping up lately you will actually write the code for me :D I am thinking in the right side a small area that will work as a tooltip displaying a paragraph of documentation with a Try me button to replay recorded tutorials, preferably with the showing code as example. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote: Le 13/01/2014 10:09, [hidden email] a écrit : I am working on a similar thing (without the replaying feature). I am interested in profiling (i.e., recording) some morphic events. I use a tracing framework I wrote a long time ago for things like that. It's called Jejak (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ThierryGoubier/Jejak) and has the ability to trace and record events from running code, even critical code like Morphic. I'm updating it for Pharo3 at the moment. And it would be great to use the new Opal facilities for doing so... at the moment, it's working by code rewriting (which is a very portable approach). Thierry I will look into this existing recorder, thanks for sharing. Cheers, R On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote: Cool! This is really interesting to have. Executable screencasts... I'll do that next time for teaching with Pharo :) Thierry Le 13/01/2014 04:14, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit : If you don't know EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (which I didn't and started to re-implement), they are super cool. 1. DoIt: "EventRecorderMorph new openInWorld" 2. Click "record" in the GUI 3. Perform some UI actions 4. Click "play" in the GUI Your keyboard and mouse actions will be replayed in the World! I know right?! Amazing. This could be really cool for live documentation and executable screencasts :) It's just a straight port now, but I'd like to decouple the recorder and replay hand so that any event source can be used. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/EventRecorder Initial commit: port EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (originally in MorphicExtras-AdditionalSupport) to Pharo 3.0 ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: <a href="tel:%2B33%20%280%29%201%2069%2008%2032%2092" value="+33169083292" target="_blank">+33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: <a href="tel:%2B33%20%280%29%201%2069%2008%2032%2092" value="+33169083292" target="_blank">+33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://forum.world.st/ANN-EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258p4736364.h... To unsubscribe from [ANN]: EventRecorderMorph Port to 3.0, click here. NAML ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258p4736403.h... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
I wanted to implement this with Athens , and now I am looking into Roassal. Thats my only requirement since pharo is moving towards Athens anyway. I am also interested into Spec but I have no idea how the love triangle of Roassal - Spec - Athens would work out for visualising documentation. But I am not so sure about Spec because I want this to be portable to Amber too if possible. Important features to have for the recorder would be to a) set the speed of playback b) skip certain actions on playback like the whole movement of the mouse , etc c) visualise events like pressing a key on the keyboard. I am also reconsidering the library made by I think Torsten (correct me If I am wrong) for Online Documentation of Pharo so that clicking on the tooltip will open the web browser and send you to the web page containing a full documentation of the thing the tooltip was point to. I wanted to do this inside Pharo but with the rate I am progressing I rather use his approach since web is excellent for documenting stuff. Afterall we all want more or less similar things, some compromises have to be made and code must be reused as much as possible to take advantage of the overall effort. Something is better than nothing. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com>wrote:
I am working on the same thing. I have a window that shows all the available shortcuts in the current context. The next step is to use EventRecorderMorph to show screencasts for the different commands. I wrote my own screencast implementation, but I like EventRecorderMorph much better because it uses a real hand morph. Now I will integrate it with the UI script class I have, so that you can programmatically describe the events instead of recording them manually. An outstanding problem is how to scale the pasteupmorph so you can have any size screencast you want whole still working. We should synchronize...
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Subject: Re: [ANN]: EventRecorderMorph Port to 3.0
Guys you are awesome, thanks for this. I can use this for my documentation project (Prometheas), live documentation that show you how to get things done by replaying commands . This is too good to be true. Though with the rate new libraries have been poping up lately you will actually write the code for me :D
I am thinking in the right side a small area that will work as a tooltip displaying a paragraph of documentation with a Try me button to replay recorded tutorials, preferably with the showing code as example.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4736364&i=0>
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Le 13/01/2014 10:09, [hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4736364&i=1>a écrit :
I am working on a similar thing (without the replaying feature).
I am interested in profiling (i.e., recording) some morphic events.
I use a tracing framework I wrote a long time ago for things like that. It's called Jejak (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ThierryGoubier/Jejak) and has the ability to trace and record events from running code, even critical code like Morphic.
I'm updating it for Pharo3 at the moment. And it would be great to use the new Opal facilities for doing so... at the moment, it's working by code rewriting (which is a very portable approach).
Thierry
I will look into this existing recorder, thanks for sharing.
Cheers, R
On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4736364&i=2>> wrote:
Cool! This is really interesting to have.
Executable screencasts... I'll do that next time for teaching with Pharo :)
Thierry
Le 13/01/2014 04:14, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit :
If you don't know EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (which I didn't and started to re-implement), they are super cool.
1. DoIt: "EventRecorderMorph new openInWorld" 2. Click "record" in the GUI 3. Perform some UI actions 4. Click "play" in the GUI
Your keyboard and mouse actions will be replayed in the World! I know right?! Amazing. This could be really cool for live documentation and executable screencasts :)
It's just a straight port now, but I'd like to decouple the recorder and replay hand so that any event source can be used.
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/EventRecorder
Initial commit: port EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (originally in MorphicExtras-AdditionalSupport) to Pharo 3.0
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On 13 Jan 2014, at 13:57, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
I am also interested into Spec but I have no idea how the love triangle of Roassal - Spec - Athens would work out for visualising documentation. But I am not so sure about Spec because I want this to be portable to Amber too if possible.
In the Roassal2 repository, there is a Roassal2Spec package. It brings a Spec morphic taking a script as input, and rendering the result of the script. About Amber, itâs planned to port Spec to Amber, but you know, it requires some time :) Ben
Thats ok Ben I am actually moving very slowly with this, because I dont have much free time and I am still spending most of the time learning pharo and its libraries. I am not in any hurry. For me its enough that you say its a goal to port to Amber. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Benjamin < benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13 Jan 2014, at 13:57, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
I am also interested into Spec but I have no idea how the love triangle of Roassal - Spec - Athens would work out for visualising documentation. But I am not so sure about Spec because I want this to be portable to Amber too if possible.
In the Roassal2 repository, there is a Roassal2Spec package.
It brings a Spec morphic taking a script as input, and rendering the result of the script.
About Amber, itâs planned to port Spec to Amber, but you know, it requires some time :)
Ben
Wow, this is beautiful. Thanks for doing this! Doru On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com>wrote:
If you don't know EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (which I didn't and started to re-implement), they are super cool.
1. DoIt: "EventRecorderMorph new openInWorld" 2. Click "record" in the GUI 3. Perform some UI actions 4. Click "play" in the GUI
Your keyboard and mouse actions will be replayed in the World! I know right?! Amazing. This could be really cool for live documentation and executable screencasts :)
It's just a straight port now, but I'd like to decouple the recorder and replay hand so that any event source can be used.
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/EventRecorder
Initial commit: port EventRecorderMorph and HandMorphForReplay (originally in MorphicExtras-AdditionalSupport) to Pharo 3.0
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Tudor Girba-2 wrote
Thanks for doing this!
My pleasure. The real thanks go to Ted Kaehler, John Malone, Leandro Caniglia, Valeria Murgia, Dan Ingalls and others who wrote it. I just changed two methods ;-) ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-EventRecorderMorph-Port-to-3-0-tp4736258p4736917.h... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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