[Pharo-project] [update] #10263
ChangeLOG: ---------- --> update warning message: self inform: 'Updates after #10263 are for closure-enable Pharo. You need a 4.0 VM and continue updating from the #10262 closure image. Updating non-closure images will not work. Visit https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 for downloading the closure image'.! -- Marcus Denker -- denker@acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de
Please also inform with a link to non-mac closure VM (or put some on inria forge). Cheers 2009/4/2 Marcus Denker <denker@acm.org>:
ChangeLOG: ----------
--> update warning message:
self inform: 'Updates after #10263 are for closure-enable Pharo. You need a 4.0 VM and continue updating from the #10262 closure image. Updating non-closure images will not work. Visit https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 Â for downloading the closure image'.!
-- Marcus Denker  --  denker@acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de
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On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
Please also inform with a link to non-mac closure VM (or put some on inria forge).
Everything is linked in the download page: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2 -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
Thanks Damien, that's certainly clear for U, not for me. Is it the same that main Pharo page http://www.pharo-project.org/download ? How do I know if http://www.pharo-project.org/download provides closure ready VM ? Why is there a mac VM on https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 and only a mac VM ? Sorry, all this looks messy to me (i'm not in Pharo bath for about 4 month). I see things like a newb: 1) Marcus information tells I need a closure VM but direct me to a page without unix VM. 2) main pharo download page does not tell whether VM are closure ready or not 3) I'm stuck... (pretend I don't want to scan mailing list archive to find your usefull link) That's why I ask information to be gathered in a single place. 1) complete Marcus warning message 2) update http://www.pharo-project.org/download Nicolas 2009/4/2 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com>:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
Please also inform with a link to non-mac closure VM (or put some on inria forge).
Everything is linked in the download page:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2
-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
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Nicola, you are right, its a mess! ;) We have three places: the web page, the wiki and the GForge. A piece of information or a file should be at one and only one location. - GForge is only for file downloads. All files should be linked directly from the wiki or web page (because its GUI is so terrible) - the wiki is for Pharo *developers* - the web page is for *end users* Hence, the links to the VMs have to live on http://www.pharo-project.org/download and http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads should only link to the former page and have no other content. I'll try to clean this up soon. Adrian On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:49 , Nicolas Cellier wrote:
Thanks Damien, that's certainly clear for U, not for me. Is it the same that main Pharo page http://www.pharo-project.org/download ? How do I know if http://www.pharo-project.org/download provides closure ready VM ? Why is there a mac VM on https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 and only a mac VM ? Sorry, all this looks messy to me (i'm not in Pharo bath for about 4 month).
I see things like a newb: 1) Marcus information tells I need a closure VM but direct me to a page without unix VM. 2) main pharo download page does not tell whether VM are closure ready or not 3) I'm stuck... (pretend I don't want to scan mailing list archive to find your usefull link)
That's why I ask information to be gathered in a single place. 1) complete Marcus warning message 2) update http://www.pharo-project.org/download
Nicolas
2009/4/2 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com>:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
Please also inform with a link to non-mac closure VM (or put some on inria forge).
Everything is linked in the download page:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2
-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
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On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch> wrote:
Hence, the links to the VMs have to live on http://www.pharo-project.org/download  and http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads should only link to the former page and have no other content.
I'll try to clean this up soon.
The problem with this approach is that most people can't modify pharo-project.org. I update the wiki on code.google.com twice a month at least. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
We cannot open access to the web page for everybody. What we need is a small group of people that is responsible for the web site contents. So if you like to help I'm happy to send you a login. But forking the content on the wiki is no option. Cheers, Adrian On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:44 , Damien Cassou wrote:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch> wrote:
Hence, the links to the VMs have to live on http://www.pharo-project.org/download and http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads should only link to the former page and have no other content.
I'll try to clean this up soon.
The problem with this approach is that most people can't modify pharo-project.org. I update the wiki on code.google.com twice a month at least.
-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
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On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch> wrote:
So if you like to help I'm happy to send you a login. But forking the content on the wiki is no option.
I agree, please give me a login and I will move the content. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you think now? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
Thank, it is far better yet. Maybe to make it a bit less cryptic: "all VMs have closure support required for latest images" ... a hard work maintaining up to date site for a project moving so fast... 2009/4/2 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com>:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you think now?
-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
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On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe to make it a bit less cryptic:
"all VMs have closure support required for latest images"
done -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
At quick glance (sorry if I missed the obvious), I am glad to see us promoting Pharo-dev and providing alernate access to the core. Pharo-web is obscured??? If we plan treat that as Pharo-dev and then "run this script" that seems to work last I did it, then that's fine too. If Pharo-web is still to be featured, it deserves a place on the page too. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Cassou Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:54 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [update] #10263 On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you think now? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
On 02.04.2009, at 10:49, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
Thanks Damien, that's certainly clear for U, not for me. Is it the same that main Pharo page http://www.pharo-project.org/download ? How do I know if http://www.pharo-project.org/download provides closure ready VM ? Why is there a mac VM on https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 and only a mac VM ? Sorry, all this looks messy to me (i'm not in Pharo bath for about 4 month).
I see things like a newb: 1) Marcus information tells I need a closure VM but direct me to a page without unix VM. 2) main pharo download page does not tell whether VM are closure ready or not 3) I'm stuck... (pretend I don't want to scan mailing list archive to find your usefull link)
That's why I ask information to be gathered in a single place. 1) complete Marcus warning message 2) update http://www.pharo-project.org/download
I now changed it to: Updates after #10263 are for closure-enable Pharo. You need a current VM and continue updating from the #10262 closure image. Updating non- closure images will not work. Visit https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 for downloading the closure image, and http://pharo-project.org/download for the VM. I suggest we don't lose too much time with this... this is not a message for end-users, nor for developers, as everyone will load an image soon that is already updated... Marcus
Nicolas
2009/4/2 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com>:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
Please also inform with a link to non-mac closure VM (or put some on inria forge).
Everything is linked in the download page:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2
-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
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-- Marcus Denker -- denker@acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de
self inform: 'Updates after #10263 are for closure-enable Pharo. You need a 4.0 VM and continue updating from the #10262 closure image. Updating non-closure images will not work. Visit https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 for downloading the closure image'.!
Sorry, I'm a come-lately to this. How to I get to (and past) 10263? I downloaded Pharo0.1Core-10262cl from INRIA, but on the 4.0 vm I get 17 failures and 51 errors with all-tests. ../Dave
for the moment 10263 is the last update :) for the tests I imagine that they are normal. but we need help to improve the tests and for example avoid to have test popping up menu. stef On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:42 PM, dmason@mason-rose.ca wrote:
self inform: 'Updates after #10263 are for closure-enable Pharo. You need a 4.0 VM and continue updating from the #10262 closure image. Updating non-closure images will not work. Visit https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 for downloading the closure image'.!
Sorry, I'm a come-lately to this. How to I get to (and past) 10263?
I downloaded Pharo0.1Core-10262cl from INRIA, but on the 4.0 vm I get 17 failures and 51 errors with all-tests.
../Dave
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On Apr 3, 2009, at 00:04 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
for the moment 10263 is the last update :) for the tests I imagine that they are normal.
Hm, seems not normal... without closures (10263): 2929 run, 2909 passes, 2 expected failures, 12 failures, 6 errors, 0 unexpected passes with closures (10262cl): 2970 run, 2900 passes, 2 expected failures, 17 failures, 51 errors, 0 unexpected passes Not sure though, if the 10262cl image I downloaded from GForge already has the fixes in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=685 ? (sorry, was a bit offline from Pharo the last week). A couple of errors exist simply because BlockClosure is expected to understand messages from BlockContext. Fixing the few obvious ones (I atteched a cs to isse #685) brings me down to: 2970 run, 2923 passes, 2 expected failures, 20 failures, 25 errors, 0 unexpected passes But still, not normal. A few couple other errors are from BlockContextTest. Shall this one be removed or are these tests still valuable if we adapt them? Another question: did somebody check the methods that the closure changeset modified for conflicts with fixes that we applied in Pharo? I mean, if the closures implementation touched one of these methods, our changes/fixes would be gone. Cheers, Adrian
but we need help to improve the tests and for example avoid to have test popping up menu.
stef
On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:42 PM, dmason@mason-rose.ca wrote:
self inform: 'Updates after #10263 are for closure-enable Pharo. You need a 4.0 VM and continue updating from the #10262 closure image. Updating non-closure images will not work. Visit https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 for downloading the closure image'.!
Sorry, I'm a come-lately to this. How to I get to (and past) 10263?
I downloaded Pharo0.1Core-10262cl from INRIA, but on the 4.0 vm I get 17 failures and 51 errors with all-tests.
../Dave
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On Apr 3, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
On Apr 3, 2009, at 00:04 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
for the moment 10263 is the last update :) for the tests I imagine that they are normal.
Hm, seems not normal...
without closures (10263): 2929 run, 2909 passes, 2 expected failures, 12 failures, 6 errors, 0 unexpected passes with closures (10262cl): 2970 run, 2900 passes, 2 expected failures, 17 failures, 51 errors, 0 unexpected passes
Not sure though, if the 10262cl image I downloaded from GForge already has the fixes in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=685 ? (sorry, was a bit offline from Pharo the last week).
No. None of them are in the release.
A couple of errors exist simply because BlockClosure is expected to understand messages from BlockContext. Fixing the few obvious ones (I atteched a cs to isse #685) brings me down to:
2970 run, 2923 passes, 2 expected failures, 20 failures, 25 errors, 0 unexpected passes
But still, not normal.
A few couple other errors are from BlockContextTest. Shall this one be removed or are these tests still valuable if we adapt them?
Another question: did somebody check the methods that the closure changeset modified for conflicts with fixes that we applied in Pharo?
Somehow since this is difficult to know exactly.
I mean, if the closures implementation touched one of these methods, our changes/fixes would be gone.
Cheers, Adrian
but we need help to improve the tests and for example avoid to have test popping up menu.
stef
On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:42 PM, dmason@mason-rose.ca wrote:
self inform: 'Updates after #10263 are for closure-enable Pharo. You need a 4.0 VM and continue updating from the #10262 closure image. Updating non-closure images will not work. Visit https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 for downloading the closure image'.!
Sorry, I'm a come-lately to this. How to I get to (and past) 10263?
I downloaded Pharo0.1Core-10262cl from INRIA, but on the 4.0 vm I get 17 failures and 51 errors with all-tests.
../Dave
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