[Pharo-project] Are we losing method versions?
For DateAndTime class>>#readFrom: ... In Pharo 1.0, only one version: 'PeterHugossonMiller 9/3/2009 01:10' In Pharo 1.2.2, two versions, minus the one from 1.0: "#('SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51' 'StephaneDucasse 4/24/2010 12:46')" In Pharo 2.0, only the last version from 1.2.2 remains: 'SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51' -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Are-we-losing-method-versions-tp4630520.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Isn't the .changes somehow shrinked before every release? That should explain that. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com>wrote:
For DateAndTime class>>#readFrom: ...
In Pharo 1.0, only one version: 'PeterHugossonMiller 9/3/2009 01:10' In Pharo 1.2.2, two versions, minus the one from 1.0: "#('SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51' 'StephaneDucasse 4/24/2010 12:46')" In Pharo 2.0, only the last version from 1.2.2 remains: 'SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51'
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yes Now we would love to have a database storing all the methods based on the ring meta model
Isn't the .changes somehow shrinked before every release? That should explain that.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote: For DateAndTime class>>#readFrom: ...
In Pharo 1.0, only one version: 'PeterHugossonMiller 9/3/2009 01:10' In Pharo 1.2.2, two versions, minus the one from 1.0: "#('SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51' 'StephaneDucasse 4/24/2010 12:46')" In Pharo 2.0, only the last version from 1.2.2 remains: 'SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51'
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Steph, I would love to help you with ... I'm overloaded like everyone else, but would squeeze out time for this if it makes sense ... Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> | To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:53:36 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Are we losing method versions? | | yes | | Now we would love to have a database storing all the methods based on | the ring meta model | | | | > Isn't the .changes somehow shrinked before every release? That | > should explain that. | > | > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris | > <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote: | > For DateAndTime class>>#readFrom: ... | > | > In Pharo 1.0, only one version: 'PeterHugossonMiller 9/3/2009 | > 01:10' | > In Pharo 1.2.2, two versions, minus the one from 1.0: | > "#('SeanDeNigris | > 8/5/2010 15:51' 'StephaneDucasse 4/24/2010 12:46')" | > In Pharo 2.0, only the last version from 1.2.2 remains: | > 'SeanDeNigris | > 8/5/2010 15:51' | > | > -- | > View this message in context: | > http://forum.world.st/Are-we-losing-method-versions-tp4630520.html | > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. | > | > | | |
On May 16, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
Steph,
I would love to help you with ... I'm overloaded like everyone else, but would squeeze out time for this if it makes sense â¦
Thanks dale. Hernan and one of his students started to work on a solution (not ring based) and we synced now in Sept we will receive him for three months and I hope to get some momentum. I will ask veronica and andy to let us know about their first experience.
Dale
----- Original Message ----- | From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> | To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:53:36 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Are we losing method versions? | | yes | | Now we would love to have a database storing all the methods based on | the ring meta model | | | | > Isn't the .changes somehow shrinked before every release? That | > should explain that. | > | > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris | > <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote: | > For DateAndTime class>>#readFrom: ... | > | > In Pharo 1.0, only one version: 'PeterHugossonMiller 9/3/2009 | > 01:10' | > In Pharo 1.2.2, two versions, minus the one from 1.0: | > "#('SeanDeNigris | > 8/5/2010 15:51' 'StephaneDucasse 4/24/2010 12:46')" | > In Pharo 2.0, only the last version from 1.2.2 remains: | > 'SeanDeNigris | > 8/5/2010 15:51' | > | > -- | > View this message in context: | > http://forum.world.st/Are-we-losing-method-versions-tp4630520.html | > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. | > | > | | |
Magma 1.3 runs on Pharo 1.3. Did anyone ever get a chance try Magma's new capability in this area? http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5603 Of course you get all versions, but I myself have been really enjoying "Browse mc origin" which it adds to the method menu -- it opens the standard MCVersionInfo box to see the version notes for when that version of the method was originally created. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
yes
Now we would love to have a database storing all the methods based on the ring meta model
Isn't the .changes somehow shrinked before every release? Â That should explain that.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote: For DateAndTime class>>#readFrom: ...
In Pharo 1.0, only one version: 'PeterHugossonMiller 9/3/2009 01:10' In Pharo 1.2.2, two versions, minus the one from 1.0: "#('SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51' 'StephaneDucasse 4/24/2010 12:46')" In Pharo 2.0, only the last version from 1.2.2 remains: 'SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51'
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Cool I should try. Should I install Magma locally? Can I automatically publish in magma local and squeak source/ss3/... On May 17, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Chris Muller wrote:
Magma 1.3 runs on Pharo 1.3. Did anyone ever get a chance try Magma's new capability in this area?
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5603
Of course you get all versions, but I myself have been really enjoying "Browse mc origin" which it adds to the method menu -- it opens the standard MCVersionInfo box to see the version notes for when that version of the method was originally created.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
yes
Now we would love to have a database storing all the methods based on the ring meta model
Isn't the .changes somehow shrinked before every release? That should explain that.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote: For DateAndTime class>>#readFrom: ...
In Pharo 1.0, only one version: 'PeterHugossonMiller 9/3/2009 01:10' In Pharo 1.2.2, two versions, minus the one from 1.0: "#('SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51' 'StephaneDucasse 4/24/2010 12:46')" In Pharo 2.0, only the last version from 1.2.2 remains: 'SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51'
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Those MC upgrades which I think you ported over are needed. Using a remote connection is recommended, because a local connection would lock files and wouldn't be able to access multiple images simultaneously.
Can I automatically publish in magma local and squeak source/ss3/...
It is just a MC repository -- it _could_ be used as a back-end for SqueakSource, but I don't believe that has been done. On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Cool I should try. Should I install Magma locally? Can I automatically publish in magma local and squeak source/ss3/...
On May 17, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Chris Muller wrote:
Magma 1.3 runs on Pharo 1.3. Â Did anyone ever get a chance try Magma's new capability in this area?
 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5603
Of course you get all versions, but I myself have been really enjoying "Browse mc origin" which it adds to the method menu -- it opens the standard MCVersionInfo box to see the version notes for when that version of the method was originally created.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
yes
Now we would love to have a database storing all the methods based on the ring meta model
Isn't the .changes somehow shrinked before every release? Â That should explain that.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote: For DateAndTime class>>#readFrom: ...
In Pharo 1.0, only one version: 'PeterHugossonMiller 9/3/2009 01:10' In Pharo 1.2.2, two versions, minus the one from 1.0: "#('SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51' 'StephaneDucasse 4/24/2010 12:46')" In Pharo 2.0, only the last version from 1.2.2 remains: 'SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51'
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On May 17, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Chris Muller wrote:
Those MC upgrades which I think you ported over are needed.
Not yet. I have to get the time to be really concentrated.
Using a remote connection is recommended, because a local connection would lock files and wouldn't be able to access multiple images simultaneously.
Can I automatically publish in magma local and squeak source/ss3/...
It is just a MC repository -- it _could_ be used as a back-end for SqueakSource, but I don't believe that has been done.
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Cool I should try. Should I install Magma locally? Can I automatically publish in magma local and squeak source/ss3/...
On May 17, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Chris Muller wrote:
Magma 1.3 runs on Pharo 1.3. Did anyone ever get a chance try Magma's new capability in this area?
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5603
Of course you get all versions, but I myself have been really enjoying "Browse mc origin" which it adds to the method menu -- it opens the standard MCVersionInfo box to see the version notes for when that version of the method was originally created.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
yes
Now we would love to have a database storing all the methods based on the ring meta model
Isn't the .changes somehow shrinked before every release? That should explain that.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote: For DateAndTime class>>#readFrom: ...
In Pharo 1.0, only one version: 'PeterHugossonMiller 9/3/2009 01:10' In Pharo 1.2.2, two versions, minus the one from 1.0: "#('SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51' 'StephaneDucasse 4/24/2010 12:46')" In Pharo 2.0, only the last version from 1.2.2 remains: 'SeanDeNigris 8/5/2010 15:51'
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