As browsers are a passion in the Smalltalk world it will be great to read your thoughts - as its certainly a hot potato, and we don't seem to have quite cracked it so far. I recall the presentations on Calypso from Pharo days (might have been recorded for review if you haven't seen them). I recall being won over at the time (and I was hesitant) - there was lots of flexibility that had been thought about, and many useful and tricky browsing patterns were covered - but over time I think its proved tricky to work with. In Pharo 11, the browsers don't seem to work as well as they should (lots of funny focus issues and loss of context that I don't recall in previous version - which I think is more down to understanding how it was supposed to work than technical flaws). It's definitely worth generating conversation and getting some consensus otherwise it will be a rise and fall scenario all over again. This said, continuing to find a good model that is both flexible and simple is useful. Tim p.s. On thing I recall from those Calypso presentations was that the model should have let us design browsers where we have different navigation models (e.g. you in theory you could design something where a class has a path to methods which are both instance and class so you don't have to have a mode to swap between them - something I find distracting when designing the interface of a class and trying to figure out how you instantiate/initialize it and you want to jump between the 2 view - I just want to see all all the methods in a list, differentiated in some way vs. hiding them). On Sun, 10 Mar 2024, at 5:24 PM, Koen De Hondt wrote:
Dear Pharo users and developers,
Some people already know that I am working on a browser for Pharo. With this announcement, I make it official ð. In my latest blog post <https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/6>, I introduce Atlas as an ambitious successor of Calypso. It is the first post in a series.
Happy reading!
Ciao, Koen