On 10 November 2012 21:42, Jimmie Houchin <jlhouchin@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/10/2012 11:03 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
It is too much imo.. Clojure->java -> c++
i would just write C++ code
The API is either Java or C++ or .NET. I agree that no sane person would go Clojure->Java->C++ :)
Why? It's all just bytecodes on a JVM. And Clojure is a _much_ nicer language than Java.
Clojure would provide the option of interfacing natively the Java API, without having to write Java. But then I am left developing in Clojure, unless I decide to serve to Pharo via http/websockets.
But you'd still need to write something here, to expose the API via HTTP, so you can't escape the net completely.
As I do not currently know Java or Clojure or C++, it currently seemed like learning Clojure as the optimal path of least resistance.
That is with a belief that I could learn Clojure better, easier, faster than C++, or at least a sufficient subset of C++ to work with NB.
I think going the Clojure route makes more sense, but I am strongly biased towards functional programming languages. It is a simpler language to learn than Java, yet one that provides much richer libraries. You won't, for instance, have to write a for loop to iterate over a collection. Just read "reduce" and think "inject: into:" and you're halfway there. frank
If I could learn a subset of C++ sufficient to interface NB/Pharo with ForexConnect, then I would be happy to do so. http://forexforums.dailyfx.com/forexconnect/392705-forexconnect-api-subscrib... Especially if I had a roadmap to help provide me with said proficiency and that I could do so in equal or less time than spending with Clojure. It is a pragmatic decision. Long term I want to spend my time in Pharo and not in Clojure or C++, which is why I am attempting what at the moment requires the least effort or at least by best guess appears to be so.
I have found nothing that I can program and interactively explore and experiment with better that Smalltalk/Pharo. It is most definitely my preference to do so. And I so greatly appreciate all of the efforts being made to make it an option more of the time.
JavaConnect that Stéphane mentioned looks very interesting.
I really appreciate your input into this. I can gauge the effort to learn Clojure and I find it reasonable. C++ seems from the outside to be more daunting. I could be wrong. Let me know if you have a different opinion.
Thanks.
Jimmie