On Dec 31, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
Stephane, You can't be serious: you learn something usefull from students acid comments and nothing from the ones of Levente ?
I learned don't worry but levente is often at the edge of getting in my spam filter. So you see I continue to believe that he is not too boring...
Comm'on! It's guaranteed that you'll get complaints.
Sure when doing we always get exposed and I do not fear complaints. I got bird names in the past and I did not care. Now I care about the systematic anti pharo spirit developed.
Only who doesn't do anything won't. Forgetting is human, mistakes are, and unfortunately your are human too. You must accept to fail, and you must accept some critics: it's up to you to turn these in positive feedback.
I accept criticisms. Now not systematic. As I said did you see me sending a bad mail in squeak about squeak. I do not even do that in Pharo about squeak because this is not fun, productive. I have 10 years to make something cool, good and positive. Stef
cheers
Nicolas
2010/12/31 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>:
Thanks for the usual rant. This is good to have you here because we could have forgotten. Now of course we apply deprecation (we are probably the guy responsible to get the methods in Squeak long long time ago) but there are moments when there is too much to deprecate or when people forget. And forgetting is humane. Now if your company has lot of money, we can hire another engineer and work full speed and apply even more software engineering practices. Now it does not mean that we do not pay attention. We pay attention to people and to their product. May be each community needs its pain in the ass after all it shows that we get cooler and cooler. But it would be nice if you could give us a break.
Stef
On Dec 31, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010, John McIntosh wrote:
Well the question as pointed out was does this vm support weak object finalization? and since all closure vm support finalization, then asking the question was mute, so it was ditched. Sophie from the 2003 era had to ask.
The need for the check it outdated, but the method is still sent by external packages. With proper deprecation policy the method would be still available. It would simply return true and raise a deprecation warning.
Levente
On 12/30/10, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab@anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
Hopefully that can eventually be said as "backward compatibility with good stuff is a priority for Pharo." Moving targets are perhaps best left moving for now.
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Levente Uzonyi [leves@elte.hu] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:13 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] WeakArray>>isFinalizationSupported
(or so) which is unrelated. The method was removed during a "cleanup". And as you know, backwards compatibility is not a priority for Pharo.
Levente
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