If you don't follow the squeak list, then you won't know they install the patches from 2007 to fix the problem, although there are some thoughts now what about patches from later in 2007 & 2008? Hopefully this kicks off some reflection in their infrastructure support teams about why some patches are deemed highly critical for squeak based server images. On 2009-11-09, at 4:00 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Michael,
Please hold that thought on marketing. In fairness, the problem is not so much that Pharo relies on an unreliable server (which might not even be the case - being down "now" and being down a lot are two different things) as it is that the package management tools (at least as far as I have seen) are lacking important features.
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo- project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Michael Rueger Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:10 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Not a disaster (this time)
Lukas Renggli wrote:
I don't know what is hosted on source.squeakfoundation.org and who is maintaining it.
You are not quite getting the point. As long as Pharo relies on *anything* hosted on unreliable servers hosted by anyone the bad PR falls back on the Pharo community.
And if I would look at scripting language XY and something doesn't work and the answer I get is "oh, just install your own server, it's all distributed, stupid, don't rely on the offical servers, ..." What do you think my reaction will be?
Michael
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