On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Le 20/09/2010 23:30, Levente Uzonyi a écrit :
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Le 20/09/2010 17:50, Levente Uzonyi a écrit :
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Really I don't understand CUIS long term objective, why this work is not done in Pharo? They share the same vision.
You could ask the same question with Pharo and Squeak instead of Cuis and Pharo, couldn't you?
No, I can't.
Pharo provides me a clear vision I can thrust: a Smalltalk environment to build third party applications (ie makes my developer life easier). Squeak does not provide me this thrust nor indication of that direction.
When was the last time you used Squeak?
In may, when I ported back istoa artifact with Etoys scripting. It was quite pleasant to update these code within Squeak.
You can object it is matter of point of view, I will object it is a matter of ressources you can allocate to write an application. Mine are limited: I start writing DrGeo under Squeak, then I continued with Pharo. I can really fell the difference: nice Widgets, cleaner system I can understand, ease to integrate changes/improvements upstream. All in all, I get the job done more nicely from my perspective.
So you're using Pharo because of Polymorph?
yes, but not only.
What are the other reasons?
In the past, project got hudge resources (ie Sophie), this project failed to give back to the community in a proper way. Was it because
I don't really get this, which project are you talking about?
Sophie.
Why can't we have stuff from Sophie back to Squeak/Pharo? - only the Sophie developers are familiar with the code and they are not motivated enough to extract it - the license is BSD, so the code can't be included in Pharo/Squeak Levente
Hilaire
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