2014-05-20 21:52 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>:
Hi Nicolas,
I completely agree with you. I was wondering what is the relevance of having the âSoftware updateâ menu entry if it does not work?
Maybe it should be simply removed? It will make menu shorter and less error prone.
Alexandre
Well, I allways favoured updating to downloading and restarting from scratch - it's less involved, like I don't re-install a linux from scratch more than once or twice a year, and I'm sure I'm not alone. If we are prepared to see it failing, it does not really matter, it's in the contract... The only problem is to be aware of this contract and avoid negative impression. Maybe an advanced menu triggered by some preference? Nicolas --
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On May 20, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Nicolas Cellier < nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
2014-05-20 4:42 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com>: Some students have also tried to update Pharo using the update stream.
Is this still used? Should nt it be removed
Alexandre
How I see it:
Pharo team wants to perform deep changes into the system. Pharo team wants to perform those changes fast, and not be swamped like
they think squeak is
(it sure was! but let's say that Squeak values backward compatibility which is naturally a drag).
It might be difficult/take a long time to find a way to perform these changes in a reproducible way in customers' images. So the philosophy it let updateStream tools available, but do not bother with update stream if it's too difficult. It's without any guaranty and I often saw it fail (once every few dozens of updates...)
I'd say keep it as is.
Nicolas
Le 19-05-2014 à 15:49, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> a écrit :
I felt adventurous today, so I said what the hell lets try to update Pharo with the updater tool. So I used world menu navigated to system and choose software update. And after a long download and method's compiling the attached image appeared :)
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