Hi Hi. If in the process you discover easy changes on the pharo side that can be either integrated in Pharo or packages from the Pharo side to help migration let us know. Sure. Iâm working thru several things in parallel: Christianâs Smalltalk Transformation/PDFtalk thing;, Spec2 as a way to save me from VWâs Wrapper, Willow as a way to do nice web-based graphics similar to whatâs done in Roassal, but with D3. Iâm posting my progress/problems here and in Pharo Discord. We would like to help but we are really really super full. I tried to help to package values but I did not understand the process (I know the pharo way for sure to define baseline). Now a part of the team is really concentrated to improve the VM (we would like to have a 1.5 speed up) That would be great. On that note, is anyone else following Dave Masonâs Zag effort: https://github.com/dvmason/Zag-Smalltalk Iâm looking for speed and deterministic latencies (think rigorous temporal testing, microcontrollers/IoT). This is why I brought up the subject of Mistâs bin-based, move-less GC algorithm, which looks not only very fast, but also very predictable within narrow timing marginsâhence the attraction. Dave seems to be working by himself with a grad student who is still coming up to speed on Zag. How do we combine efforts? but it requires work and concentration. We are also working on permanent space and better memory management thanks for lifeware sponsoring. Still let us know. Shaping about the spec questions esteban is on vacation and when he will reappear he will check the libgit change impacting us. Then the spec aspects. Iâm trying to get by with the smaller fonts for labels and an 11 pt. Fira Code in the code pane. That doesnât cause labels to overlap input fields, which is the big ergo-problem I see everywhere in Pharo if you want to up font size even a little, use a monospaced font, and use the same font everywhere. I suppose we need a re-do of certain GUIâs in Spec2 such that we have resizable columns for labels. All of that is doable but is some work. The situation makes me think that doing Pharo completely as a web app (with Willow) makes the most sense if you want low-effort, painless, elastic imaging so that your fonts are always the right size, whether you are 18â from your monitor or two to three feet from an array of six monitors. Iâm just starting with Willow. I donât have a good feel for the speed of rendering yet. Maybe someone can comment on this. Shaping On 3 Aug 2022, at 16:03, Shaping <shaping@uurda.org <mailto:shaping@uurda.org> > wrote: Hi Christian. Iâm trying to port from VW 8.3 to Pharo. Is there a detailed algorithm in addition to the Workflow section mentioned here?: https://wiki.pdftalk.de/doku.php?id=pdftalknonnamespacefileout 1. generate the source for the target dialect from VisualWorks with the defined code transformations. Fix problems so that there are no errors or warnings. ⦠How does one generate the source (run the transformation)? Where are the aforementioned âdefined code transformationsâ, Is there an example of how to setup the declarative template needed to map VW namespace names to Pharo class prefixes? I loaded the following packages into my VW 8.3 image: Values Project Values Values Fileout Pharo Values Testing Values Tools Values Tools Testing Pharo Fileout Values Pharo Transform Smalltalk Transform Project Smalltalk Transform TestBundle Smalltalk Transform Tests Smalltalk Transform Smalltalk Transform Model Smalltalk Transform Testing Smalltalk Transform TestPackage Smalltalk Transform Tools Any package not updated recently (in the last few months) I didnât load. Did I miss anything? 2. Port the Values package. This is easy, since no namespaces are involved. This first instruction after VW package setup says to port the contents of the Values package from VW to Pharo. Do you mean manually? Probably not. I feel like Iâve missed the main details of how to start the transformation. Iâd like to do a small fully contained test package with no external dependencies as a first test, probably my Magnitude or Collection packages. Suggestions are welcome. Thanks for doing this and sharing it. Shaping From: christian.haider <christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com <mailto:christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 June, 2022 05:42 To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Subject: [Pharo-users] [PDFtalk] second fileOut for Squeak and Pharo With help from the community some issues were fixed which improved the test statistics nicely. Check it out: https://wiki.pdftalk.de/doku.php?id=portingblog#second_pdftalk_fileout_for_s... Thanks to everybody involved! Happy hacking, Christian