Hi johannes
Well I can't speak for the Pharo management, but let me run the hurdles for you.
(a) license, is of course an issue for some folks. I'll attach the mpeg3Plugin.bundle license Technically I think this fails Pharo's license test. The OLPC folks ban it, so Viewpoints Inc funded me to build a GStreamer plugin for EToys on the OLPC, that works well on linux/windows but is difficult to install on os-x.
If you can leave with LGPL then use it. LGPL is less viral than GPL so this is not a total no and in the long run it would be good to have a good MPEG support now
(b) support.
Personally I think someone should harvest the Quicktime work that we did in Sophie. That works on macintosh/windows, possible on Linux with some of the quicktime clone libraries? In the past the argument has been oh then you have to install Quicktime on Windows. But if you look around you'll notice *everyone* has installed iTunes for Windows because *everyone* has an iPod. Oh and it stealth installs Quicktime to support iTunes.
Yes but that someone is busy so if someone else would publish the code in the inbox the someone would be happy but thanks for the point.
(c) scope creep. I don't thinking, sound, video, dancing has been part of the "business apps" focus for Pharo.
I'm not sure that we should not have good sound, audio in the world of today. :) So I will definitevily look at Sophie dev. Stef
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On 2009-11-29, at 3:13 AM, Johannes Rasche wrote:
Hi folks,
before I started to use Pharo (which I appreciate very much - many thanks all contributors!!),
I did some experiments with MPEG in Squeak.
Now want to continue.
I like to know why it's not contained in Pharo.
Searching keyword MPEG and Squeak I found only outdated stuff (on SmalltalkConsulting of John McIntosh as well, who seems to contribute to Pharo too) and I was wondering that nobody seems to work with audio/video.
questions
(1) did you - Pharo key players - find MPEG code unsecure and decided to postpone for later reviewing?
or
(2) did you think that it has not to be part of standard Pharo SmallTalk distribution and people may fileIn the related package from Non-Pharo Squeak?
and
(3) if I'm right with the last assumption, is there anyone who experienced MPEG under Pharo?
Thanks in advance
Johannes
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