Craig> In keeping with the principle of least surprise (and least time Craig> spent chasing strange bugs at 4am :), I would prefer that Craig> literals be immutable. Eliot> Sleep no sleep no sleep no sleep and no mad Eliot> Video machine to eat time, a city scene Eliot> I can't explain, strange bugs alone at 4am Eliot> The Seine alone at 4a.m, ... Cool, King Crimson agrees with us. :) Tudor> Talking about 4 am, you should also watch the coolest talk about Tudor> it: [1]. And a beautiful follow up: [2] Thanks! I'll save these for 4am, not long now... -C [1] http://www.ted.com/talks/rives_on_4_a_m [2] http://www.ted.com/talk/rives_a_museum_of_4_o_clock_in_the_morning -- Craig Latta netjam.org +31 6 2757 7177 (SMS ok) + 1 415 287 3547 (no SMS)