I understood you; I don't want others misunderstanding you; please reply to Friedrich so it is clear. In the good old days, before Novel and Microsoft made most of the email clients in use, there were ways to properly quote text with attribution to the authors in a way that worked. BTW, I don't top-post because I think it's a good idea, I do it because our garbage email system can't do otherwise (I've looked, the options don't exist). I've been stuck with one or another broken system for years now :( But, it's **standard** ;) ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Yang Ha Nguyen [cmpitg@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:29 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] What are you using to write reports? Hi Wilhelm Schwab, I think you have misunderstood me. I was quoting Friedrich's message and responsing to him, even before your reply, since he has been being subjective about the point. Personal taste doesn't mean to be subjective. On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 10:10:20AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Yang Nguyen,
This reads as though you are responding to *me* as the MS junkie. For the record, I have been making the point that there are (generally superior) alternatives to MS software, and I never referred to "OpenOffice Basic." Please direct your advice to Friedrich Dominicus, who is either seeking it or perhaps just trolling.
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Yang Ha Nguyen [cmpitg@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:05 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] What are you using to write reports?
On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:09:07AM +0200, Friedrich Dominicus wrote:
"Schwab,Wilhelm K" <bschwab@anest.ufl.edu> writes:
And let's be honest a second time. MS-Office is the Standard by any means. Yes there is LaTex and yes there is OpenOffice but sorry if anyone talks about Office Software they mean MS-Office. And we have to admit that the MS-Office tools are extremly useful, especially Excel is quite good at that spreadsheets can do ;-)
I don't think there is some one who is not honest in this topic. M$-Office is *popular* doesn't mean that it's the standard. Talking about office suite doesn't imply that it's the office suite from M$, except for the situation that you were grown in a M$'s dominated education system. What feature makes OpenOffice.org not useful? Except for just not being able to perfectly handle M$'s proprietary format? Have you ever used OpenOffice.org Calc for your own sake?
OpenOffice has some type of (Java??) scripting interface. That might be a little better and perhaps even friendlier than MS' offerings and might then be induced to create .xls files.
Well VBA and Excel is well working, I doubt that OpenOffice Basic can compete with it.
Oh, I didn't know that OpenOffice.org Basic is a spreadsheet software. I doubt I've ever heard of its name as an spreadsheet application. M$ Excel just works with its own closed source VBA version, my OpenOffice.org Calc works with VBA, Python, and Java scripting languages. I've never spent a lot of time writing and maintaining source code with Python as with VB. What makes it not a good competitor to M$ Excel?
Best regards, -- Yang Nguyen Life is a hack
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