I think so, yes :) El 31/10/2011, a las 6:40p.m., Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
esteban
would mars be the perfect case to validate the FFI we all need?
Stef
On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
ObjectiveCBridge2 (John's one) should be working with latest builds... at least I *think* it should be (the older bug was fixed... so if it does not works now is probably because other reasons. I didn't check it since last six months, so I don't know. Reason why I didn't check it? well... two reasons: nobody ask for, so I assumed I was the only user (sorry if that's not true), and also, in my work of mars/deimos I found several performace issues (most people will not have it, but mars/deimos is very callback dependent) and objective-c callback architecture was not enough, so I started to create (well... to finish, because machinery was already there) a new objective-c bridge, based on Alien... it was working (and the response times were incredible fast), but then came the new FFI (not threaded) and I started migrating the alien objective-c bridge to the new plugin... and well... that's not finished because time is never enough :) I think in the long way the new plugin is the way to go, but for now we have the bridge and it should work :)
So, as a summary: ObjectiveCBridge2 *should* be working, if anyone want to take a look, I will be happy to help if there are any problems.
Cheers, Esteban
El 31/10/2011, a las 5:58p.m., Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
When igor release athens, we will really ask him to get a 100% fully working FFI will be the most important task
Stef
On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
The object-c bridge is probably a big deal to the Mac users among us, right? My understand is that there are quite a few of you?? I've thought about it myself, but that's another story.
For external interfacing, I would very much like to see callbacks widely supported; I'm thinking of solvers/minimizers etc., where one needs to tell the library how to evaluate a function. FFI has been pretty good to me, and Andreas described something that might be turned into a reusable callback mechanism for it. Alien and NativeBoost are also options. It would be nice if we had one external interface system that does it all.
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What about adding to this todo list:
-Fixing/finishing the Objective-C bridge :-) During ESUG 2010 Esteban told me that there was a pb with the Mac VM that causes the crash. I believe this wasn't fixed and this is the biggest issue with the MARS project.
Noury On 31 oct. 2011, at 11:54, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
we have a roadmap for Esteban and we would like to share it with you. We have extra items that we would like to see fixed and we are welcoming your feedback/suggestions. Note this is typically the way we want to work with the consortium in the future: Build an initial roadmap and refine it based on the input of the community.
- A website for the consortium registration (esteban is expert on that). - This is important for INRIA and for the visibility of the consortium. We should get new members :) - Integration with SmalltalkHub
- Working on fixing bugs! - Debugger fixes - Continuous bug fixing.
- Improving release process: faster, more people involved, simpler. - Working on metacello repositories for each distributions (everything is there but missing last bits) - Metacello tools - Automatic release validations - Automatic validation of fixes
Now the free items with probably igor involvement - Multiwindowing support - Fully working multithreaded FFI with ***Documentation*** - Filesystem fix and integration - Integration of OPAL - RPackage integration
Igor related - Ephemerons - Object format - VM branding - Use of new canvas - Event cleaning
So we are waiting for your suggestions.
Stef
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