On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
I have the blame of it. I am who send emails to both list. So...this is my fault.
No don't be sorry. The situation is stupid.
Sorry about it. The main problem I have is that when I have questions, suggestions, ideas or whatever, I really don't know where to post it: if in squeak-dev or pharo. I really don't know If what I want to say depends on the VM, or the image or to packages that are shared between both of them. In addition, I think there are important people that are only in one of the list. So, perhaps I miss an answer If I only send emails in one list. And probably, the same discussion could be useful for both lists.
Continue like you did it. We will pay attention.
What you think I should do ? which would be the better way so that not to cause the problem mentioned above?
I am following Pharo very near because this really interest me. I really want to LIVE AND EAT using an open source smalltalk. I don't want smalltalk to play. I want to WORK with it. So, I think Pharo is the better approach for my intention.
But, 90% the time I spend in Squeak is for SqueakDBX. And SqueakDBX doesn't work well in pharo.
Excellent you will be able to say that ESUG pay you to produce code for Squeak :)
I have random segmentation faults trough FFI which I don't have in Squeak. I didn't want to spend many time trying to see what the problem is till 1.0 is releases. At that moment, I will look for the problem. When this is fixed, I will then really start using pharo 100%.
Sure. Can you report your problem on FFI :) and add a bug report on pharo Stef
Cheers,
Mariano
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Sebastian Sastre <ssastre@seaswork.com> wrote: Hi Stephane, I would not take it that seriously. Just focus that good energy you have and use it in getting things done in pharo and adding real value to it. Much it will receiver in return I'm sure of that. best, sebastian
-----Mensaje original----- De: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] En nombre de Stephane Ducasse Enviado el: Sunday, March 01, 2009 18:29 Para: Pharo Development Asunto: [Pharo-project] A point a.k.a excuse to you
Hi guys
I probably should not have forwarded to you the email I replied to matthew but I was thinking that other people can know that I was personally touched by the situation in Squeak. I'm sorry about.
We got a lot of bird names and others. Recently somebody was implying that marcus was bashing squeak because he sent an email on the pharo mailing-list stating that the situation for keyboard was worse in squeak. I'm fed up. I'm interested in pharo because I want to create free and good energy. We did a lot in the past and I want to continue. Now I unregistered from the squeak mailing-list and I will not justify anymore why I quit. Now I want pharo to be cool.
Stef
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