The Raw view is a tree :) Doru On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
On 23 Dec 2014, at 19:13, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
What does a basic inspector mean for you? It's not a rhetorical question. I am actually interested in what you miss.
What took you so long, Doru ? Haha ;-)
Seriously, I think that the 'Raw' tab of GT-Inspector actually covers the key old inspector *and* inspector behaviour quite well. I guess that was/is also the design goal.
The rest is mostly a reaction to something new and unfamiliar. GT takes some getting used to.
But we need concrete use cases that give people trouble to be able to improve.
I miss the Tree View - being able to drill down in a _compact_ way. Could that be a tab of its own? I actually think this "might" have great potential - being able to navigate in both a vertical and horizontal direction - allowing you to skip some levels between opening a new pane horizontally.
cheers -ben
Doru
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com> wrote: Yes.
World Menu >> Settings >> Glamourous toolkit then you can uncheck GTInspector and GTPlayground.
I also need to do that very often as GTInspector does not have a basic inspector.
2014-12-23 11:50 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name>: Is there a way to get the old tools via shortcut?
I started something new with pharo 4.0 today. I discovered a bug in Nautilus where every rename or deletion of a method raises a debugger. I tried finding the bug but struggled because to me the new inspector is really confusing. If I "just" want to unfold a few levels of references to get a glimpse of the structure the new tool prevents me from doing that. There is just to much information in this window and too much happening to me. To me it looks like a power tool you need to get used to. So it is probably not the best tool for simple tasks and people new to this environment might be overwhelmed. At least I would like to be able to use the old tools.
Norbert
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