On 22 December 2010 11:01, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Dec 22, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Chip Nowacek wrote:
Thanks for your help so far.
Now that I've had a chance to get my feet wet, start an eval of VW, watch Peter Fisk's progress, etc. I've hit a scary point. To go the distance, my app needs the maturity and capacity of Squeak/Pharo/VW(?). And, near- and long-term, it needs an elegant, cogent, captivating, intelligent, engaging, interactive front end. I've considered doing it in Flash or Silverlight or AIR (fat client) or straight JavaScript - though splitting the tiers and forgetting the backend seems like a lot of deferred pain. I know I have to worry about deployment. I am. I'd rather do it through the browser. And, even though DabbleDB and others are some of the coolest apps ever, I don't see Seaside cutting the front-end mustard (at least the way I understand things at this point).
what is specific about your app?
I sure wish there was a lightening-fast, browser-based, morphic-3-supporting VM so I could run ST on both tiers. A sexy, Smalltalk Lively-Kernel. I'm still trying to get Clamato to work.
So, in your professional, experienced opinions, can I get a front end on Pharo (either in-image via Rome/Athens or some cooler-than-I've-seen, through-the-browser front end)?
it depends what you need. Our plans with igor are to produce a nice API to access Cairo and openVG but this will not happen before 3-4 months.
yes, don't leave from the radar, because eventually i want to make modern, nice & sexy UI, using vector-graphics engine backend. Sure thing, if you wanna help in this regard - you're welcome, because this field is VAST and there is enough work for 10 people, not just me alone. :)
With all due respect to the Founding Fathers, I can't do eToys. Should I just do the whole client tier in in JS for the prototype and then hook to Seaside later?
did you see nextPlan? Because they generate svg too?
Any thoughts would be deeply appreciated.
Thanks,
Chip -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/big-ui-decisions-tp3160359p3160359.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.