Why don't you all write a git client in Pharo? Then you could use github as the shared repository. Monticello packages could be the git projects. You could define git sub-modules to support dependencies to other projects. -----Original Message----- From: Igor Stasenko Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:19 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] I give up. Squeaksource has lost lot ofversions again On 17 May 2011 15:57, <csrabak@bol.com.br> wrote:
Em 17/05/2011 10:32, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr > escreveu:
Now this is why ESUG payed objectFusion to propose a new application.
Is there a plan to provide a migration from squeaksource to new system? Because if not, then i'm afraid, most people will keep using SqS and imagine how many configs/wiki pages and other stuff needs to be updated. not that I know. I would give a certain amount of time to people to migrate (with their own little fingers) put all the mcz on a ftp somewhere close squeaksource
Given you're being assertive about this, I think it's time to add up to Igor's stance:
I'd prefer to fully replace SqS with new system at some day without need of migrating projects by all developers and updating links/configs etc.
Expecting a disparate set of developers with different agendas and different priorities "to migrate (with their own little fingers)" is putting too much faith the new system would be _sohhh_ _goooood_ that the masses will feel compelled to.
well comparing to more and more frequent down times, and a data loss.. i think a system which prove to be at least twice stable than current will be a big advantage. But you will never know before you try. And again: who maintaining squeaksource? Nobody. And now ask yourself: how you will manage your risks in such situation? Will you prefer, maybe a bit flaky system, which has a maintainer who will eventually fix all issues, or a system which "lets hope it will works a bit more" and nobody who are maintaining it? I don't expect that new stuff will be _sohhh_ _goooood_ out of the box. What i do expect however, that new system will be actively maintained. Otherwise if we don't have such guarantees then i don't see reason do migrate at all, because couple years later we will be in same situation: having problems but nobody to address them.
my 0.019999...
-- Cesar Rabak
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.