Hi guys May I ask you why you talk about CUIS and Spoon/Pharo? If you want to work with these systems we do not have any problems. We are working on Pharo since 2008. We deliver regularly, we are concerned with making sure that you can do business with Pharo. And we will continue. WE want to invent and build OUR future. We are spending a lot of time on making the system better. - Fuel - Athens - OPAL - Ghost - Nautilus - Ring - NativeBoost - Zinc - HUGE amount of fixes - Working on a core - Writing a lot of documentation (yes guys) to name a few. We are pushing like hell and getting there. We spent time building our vision and step by step building it. We are getting there. :) Now I do not see the points related to spoon and cuis. I do not understand what is the point. If people wants to collaborate with us this is ok now we do not count on that for our future. You do not have to reply. Just think about what you want to build and your future. Everybody make choices and is free. Stef