This message is mainly for Igor, who probably already curses every time he sees my name on the development list. But, perhaps others have had some experience with this as well. I'm still working on moving my touch applications to Athens. I am running into a major problem with icons. My applications tend to have quite a few icons in them. In the old BitBlt versions, I just used forms for the icons. That same approach fails with Athens as form rendering is time consuming. With just ten medium-sized forms open in my AthensWrapMorph, the system starts to crawl. My guess is that form rendering needs to be sped up before Athens can be widely adopted. Using the form as a paint, while flexible, seems pretty intense. Anyway, for most of my applications, switching over to vector-based graphics would be a better choice as it would allow for me to more easily scale to different screen sizes. So, I was excited to try the SVG import. Now that the XMLParser is working, I am running into some problems with the SVG import code. It seems that it doesn't support some of the features that an SVG export from Illustrator produces. I was wondering if I could get some help there. First, Illustrator tends to spit out SVGs that use #reflectedCubicBezier curves, which is not yet implemented. Second, I found a small bug in ASPathConverter>>readPoint The "self skipBlanks" has to be changed to "self skipBlanksAndComma" or multiple points cannot be read in sequence. Third, while ASPathConverter supports vLineTo: and hLineTo:, AthensCairoPathBuilder does not. I tried implementing these myself but they apparently don't work the way I thought they should. Here are two examples of the kind of SVG files I would like to read: button-swapShapes.svg<http://home.cc.gatech.edu/je77/uploads/1/button-swapShapes.svg> - This one fails because of vLineTo: and hLineTo: button-erase.svg <http://home.cc.gatech.edu/je77/uploads/1/button-erase.svg> - This one fails because of reflectedCubicBezier curves. Cheers, Jeff -- Jochen "Jeff" Rick, Ph.D. http://www.je77.com/ Skype ID: jochenrick