ok we got convinced :) On Jan 12, 2010, at 8:20 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:
Ah well yes Michael suffered thru managing, testing, and working with all those browsers & plugins. I suffered thru trying to figure out how it all worked... At least on the mac.
Here's the current issue, because:
Microsoft shafted netscape by abandoning the netscape API, then shafted apple by not providing an alternative we had the strange mixture of a solution for os-x, windows, X11. Then of course Microsoft IE on macintosh would change behaviour from version to version to screw with FireFox & Mozilla etc. Let alone worrying about Opera which kinda worked. Fortunately Microsoft abandon the Mac browser market, and Apple introduced Safari which again was slightly different.
Now on 10.6 we had this problem an abandon API for plugins, that needed to move forward, also into the 64bit world. So Apple changed things again to either let you run Safari in 32bit using old plugins (busted), or using a modified 64bit plugins api, but not both at the same time.
The words busted, non-existant, abandon, (implied ugly), appear quite a few times in the sentences above. Also on every browser version change, or operating system major version change something was just slightly funky enough to bring down the house of cards.
So, time is better spent in getting 64bit squeak working, since there is plenty of hours still needed to fixup all the plugins, and check that the VM is actually sane...
On 2010-01-11, at 1:59 PM, Michael Rueger wrote:
On 1/11/2010 10:58 PM, Michael Rueger wrote:
forget squeak/pharo in the browser.
for those not in the know: I'm one of the poor guys who actually spent a *lot* of time making it possible ;-)
Michael
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