On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, George Herolyants wrote:
2009/12/18 Michael Rueger <m.rueger@acm.org>:
Henrik Johansen wrote:
Interestingly enough a lot of the (complex) multiple native window applications have (gone back to) all in one window UIs (Eclipse, all of the Adobe products, ...).
Yeah! That's true. And their look&feel may differ from the underlying os. And everyone uses them without complaining. So what's wrong with pharo? Maybe one of the weak points is that it simulates windowing system inside another one, when other applications (Eclipse, Netbeans...) have strongly defined layout (though customizable)? I think it's a real issue. Pharo Development Environment is *Integrated* but the UI still lacks this integration in some places, IMHO.
But I think multiple windows in the meaning of what for example firefox has will be helpful as well. I mean two or more usual pharo windows "connected" to the same image. Is that possible?
HostWindowPlugin is available: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3862
And native basic dialogs may be helpful too, to not reinvent the wheel (aka FileBrowser :).
At first sight this idea seems to be cool, but it's not. FileBrowser is not a "reinvented wheel", it's really useful in a closed environments like smalltalk. FileBrowser has the same features on all platforms while native dialogs don't. Some platforms don't even have a graphical UI, would you open a terminal in the image on those? Levente
I vote for the WhiskerBrowser with all the cool OB stuff integrated! ;)
Cheers, George
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