Keep on making Pharo, IMHO it's the best thing that happened to squeak since years - though I was very septic at the beginning Last time I made a small demo to 2 of my collegues they didn't laugh - scouic - and were even impressed by smalltalk concepts
Thanks *a lot* alain. we **know** what you think. We were teaching Smalltalk to students and look like idiots during years. I should be one of the person that demoed a *lot* smalltalk and got burned. I could impose Smalltalk in some places because of my strong large cv. As we already said we invested a lot in Squeak (I wrote three books = 4 years to write one) and a lot of things. For my job people were laughing: oh you are doing Smalltalk, little smile = you are an idiot while I'm the french which published the most in OOPSLA but this did not count..... and this was a problem for me to get a job. I can continue the long list like that. So doing pharo was not an easy decision: it was pharo or ruby or python or lua. I hope that we did not make the wrong choice - I'm not joking. Now for pharo we have a vision: We want a system to invent the next one and that people can make a living with it. - bootstrappable - clean lean robust - (ideally) good interface with C - (ideally) a lovely fast readable documentd extensible VM - good infrastructure - meta model for code - browser for remote/crosscompilation/default browsing - new compiler - first class instance variable - new network layer - new graphics - new module system At the end it may not be Smalltalk but it will be the same spirit. I think that we are slowly getting to the point where we will start to invent new things instead of just removing old experiences. Stef