On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
I am trying to simplify it :)
tx
You use a Mac, right? I'm using Linux, and the vm differences might be at play??
May be.
Thanks for understanding my motivations. I'll keep at it. It might also be interesting for me to try to orchestrate an attempt on a Windows vm. I don't care for Windows, but I have long respected Andreas' work on it vm.
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 3:26 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 1.4 - better from Jenkins
bill
can you build a reproducable situation? Because we use daily packages with 1.4
In fact in often only develop in 1.4 and did not experience this problem. but it does not mean that we do not have problems :)
Stef
On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
One snag: I'm still getting strangely broken images (won't open process browser or debugger) after trying to download some things. I have mirrored squeak source, BUT, some things (SIXX, ODBC) don't appear to have working configs, so I'm trying to grab the latest packages, and *that* might not be mirrored. I might need to specify the mirror server in my code to make them work.
Still, I don't get how simply asking MC to download something will permanently mar the image w/o my doing an explicit save. Does MC snapshot before/during an attempted load? It seems very misguided that an innocent attempt to load something can hobble an image??
One other crazy possibility: is killing a vm from the (Ubunutu) system monitor somehow not sufficient to clear what is running? Dumb question? Maybe, but I'm stumped. Any ideas?
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of blake [dsblakewatson@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 2:58 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 1.4 - better from Jenkins
I just downloaded the latest CogWin and Pharo 1.4 image and I got "WARNING: Manufactured file handle detected!" at the bottom, and popup full of startup errors.
But!
It's all actually very friendly! I can look through the errors and try to figure out what caused them. It's way cleaner than the old style mega-DNU-stacks.
Nice work!
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab@anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
I grabbed 1.4 and cog/unix from jenkins, dumped all the files in one directory, made a shell script to run the image using Cog, and all I can say is "wow."
The usability problems I was having are gone. In particular, the context menus work. I loaded Migrate and set preferences, with a really nice appearance resulting.
One question: why did ClassDescription>>package go away? That seems to be a really useful message.
I'll try to build an image using the SqueakSource mirror. No promises, but 1.4 "suddenly" looks a LOT more polished than it did. Are the links on the Pharo page old, or did somebody just do a lot of work to make things better?
Bill