Guido Stepken wrote
Much advanced code. Yes. But - what for? Any *important* app outside there? Dr.Geo ... any parametric CAD can do this! CMSBOX - pfffft! How many customers?
Pharo - still unstable, unusable, no sponsors.
Jitter? Hmmm... e.g. LUAJit *has* sponsors, *very* mighty sponsors, WoW, Wikipedia ... and it *ins* rock stable, portable to 32bit, 64bit Intel, PPC *and* ARM!!!
One man show, b.t.w.!! Like Elliot Miranda with COGVM!
Develop the development process!
tnx for seeing reality,
Guido Stepken
I guess I need now to thank you too for your flowers... It is not up to me whether our CMSBOX is an important project in a general context. But to answer your question: almost 500 customers in Switzerland are using this Pharo-based application until now and for them, this application and the underlying very stable technology with ongoing development IS important. Besides, we at netstyle.ch created several business critical web-based applications, from automatic inventory management to a large CRM for a Swiss insurance broker. Although you probably never heard of these applications I guess we are nevertheless an important component of the Pharo eco system and we use it because we believe it to be the right way of the ongoing development. Although there is always room for improvement, the migration to Pharo was and is an important step within our company strategy. On this basis, we built a company from scratch with more than 10 employees whereof five software engineers are doing nothing else than working with the Pharo IDE. It is due to the ongoing development of a small community that our personal "success" became possible. Could not be more thankful for that! Keep the work going! To now improve whatever needs to improved in your opinion, one should not issue orders to or offend the community but to collaborate constructively on suggestions. Honestly, this was not our strength within the past months too, but we are willing to support this lively community as much as we can in the future although we are not Wikipedia or similar. I am convinced that a constructive and appreciative collaboration is the only way to improve Pharo so please consider my words when writing your next message. Cheers, Chris Wysseier Founder and CEO of netstyle.ch and cmsbox P.S: Also wanted to say hi to everybody as I am new on the list. Be aware that I am not an *experienced* software engineer (let's say "anymore" ;) ) and therefore will not be able to discuss on technical strategies or tasks. But I would like to know what is going on and to show support and presence to all of you. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Do-not-feed-the-trolls-tp4405636p4406708.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.