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From: Marcin Tustin <mm3@zepler.net> Date: August 25, 2010 2:31:16 AM PDT To: John McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com> Cc: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr>, pharo-dev@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Invoking external processes/IPC
I'm not sure that I would class the fact that Alien wants the Special Objects Array to be bigger than it actually is to be a mere installation issue.
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:13 AM, John McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote: Ask on the Pharo list for help or instruction on loading alien into pharo, I didn't write any of the loader code so I can't deal with the fact it may or may not be broken.
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On 2010-08-25, at 1:30 AM, Marcin Tustin <mm3@zepler.net> wrote:
John,
Do you have any intention of commenting on this, even to confirm that you are content for Alien to be incompatible with current versions of Pharo?
Marcin
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Marcin Tustin <mm3@zepler.net> wrote: John,
That is the installation recipe I was following, as should have been apparent from my description of the process followed given in my previous email. My problem occurred on the first step after loading the ConfigurationOfAlien package.
For completeness, I tried loading ConfigurationOfAlien using Gofer, and the exact same thing occurred. I also note that Gofer>>addPackage is deprecated.
Marcin
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:40 PM, John M McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote: LIkely the installation process is wrong, look at the http://squeaksource.com/@EGv-75Ct7JEKFz5m/rnvjMef8 and follow the instructions for installing there.
On 2010-08-23, at 2:08 PM, Marcin Tustin wrote:
Following Mariano's advice, I just tried installing Alien (using Pharo-1.1-11406-rc3 with the Seaside RC3 image; this is a sane version, not affected by previous package loading problems).
I loaded ConfigurationOfAlien (ConfigurationOfAlien-KenTreis.26) using Monticello, then executed ConfigurationOfAlien loadCore (as per the instructions). That resulted in an error: 'SystemDictionary>>recreateSpecialObjectsArray appears incompatible' raised from ensureInSpecialObjectsArray. The cause appears to be that Alien wants to be in the special objects array at 53, but the array is created to be size 50.
Proceeding through the error results in the predictable subscript out of bounds error.
running loadCore once more (second time) does the same thing. Doing it a third time results in a message not understood 'initScannerForTokenization' from Parser>>ParseSelector:.
Any ideas?
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Marcin Tustin <mm3@zepler.net> wrote: Mariano,
Thanks for this. I belive CommandShell depends on OSProcess. I am using windows, so I guess neither is a runner anyway. I'll try FFI/AlienFFI.
Marcin
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Marcin Tustin <mm3@zepler.net> wrote: Hi all,
I'm an occasional squeak/pharo dabbler, and I'm wondering what the recommended way of interacting with external processes is these days?
Should I go through the process of getting all the VMMaker and OSProcess stuff, and build the OSProcess plugin, or is there some other way in Pharo to interact with the OS environment?
Hi. Which OS are you? because I think OSProcess is not working on Windows. And I also think there are binaries for it, so you don't need to generate .c from VMMaker neither compile c code to binary. But I may be wrong.
CommandShell ?
Maybe using normal FFI or AlienFFI? They will let you invoke shared libraries of the OS from Pharo.
Alternatively, are people doing something (easy) with IPC mechanisms like named sockets or TCP streams?
The "project" I'm working on is putting figlet on a website, just for fun.
Marcin
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