:-) I use Versionner for simple case and the MetacelloBrowser for more complicated stuff. Check at the screenshot. You see, there is a commit button :-) It saves all the dependent packages, create a new version, ask you for the comment, and save the config. I rarely use the Monticello browser actually. Cheers, Alexandre On 31 Aug 2011, at 17:23, Igor Stasenko wrote:
On 31 August 2011 23:19, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
For development configuration is useless and just time sink.
I strongly disagree. Metacello was sold to please users. Actually, I use it for me, the developper. I create a new version at each commit. It works wonderfully.
sorry, but if during development you need to do 2 commits of 20 packages , calculate how much time it would take for you to manuallly update a configuration for each update. it is time sink.
if you do that once per day, its okay.. but for every commit . no. its is absurd.
Alexandre
But for release it has completely different purpose: it helps us to identify what exactly and what version of it will be put in final version. And gives a simple and concrete answer how to reproduce it, in case of need. Since we're are talking about release, i don't see how we could do that without configurations.
Yes, sure it could be done manually to manifest all packages and their version(s) included into release, but it still means that someone has to do it one way or another.
On 31 August 2011 23:03, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Marcus
We only do what is possible :)
- for the configurations of let us take what exist. We cannot control everything. I do not have the time and knowledge for that. Lukas decided that configurations are evil. Ok perfect now we fix them when we know what should be loaded.
- Then for example to integrate the broken highlight I need the code first. I still do not know which slice to load in 1.3. Two days ago I spent time on it loading the wrong slice. So I decided that I will not stress.
So we will fix that either in 1.3 or in 1.4 as time allows it. And more more important: no stress we are payed enough to stress and do stuff that hurts us.
Stef
On Aug 31, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
The image contains outdated versions of RB and OB that miss some critical fixes.
How can I know?
It is is build using the latest MetaCello config... if the config needs to be updated, it needs to be updated. It does not happen by itself.
Also there some proposed fixes don't seem to be included <http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?q=milestone%3D1.3> yet?
No... I have not yet found the energy to do that.
Marcus
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