On 26 Mar 2019, at 18:52, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am sorry you feel frustrated but this is an important change that is going on and we need to tackle it, not revert it. Yes, probably last two weeks there has not been much movement, but reason is we are working on make PharoDays possible.
Now, as Stef said⦠Pharo 8 is alpha. I will add VERY alpha. Each release has some moments where there is something severely broken. From my part Iâm happy that this happens now and now (as usual) in august when we are preparing for release :) And NOT (as usual)⦠etc. (errare humanum est :P)
Please, do a step back and and rephrase your mail. You are the advocate of non-violent communication. Iâm afraid do tell you that the tone of the mail was very violent.
In the positive lecture of things: yes, we are having problems with rubric. But once we fix it, you will be happier with it, Iâm sure :)
Esteban
On 26 Mar 2019, at 18:39, Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl> wrote:
ducasse <stepharo@netcourrier.com> wrote:
Hi stephan
Unless someone is working on fixing it today, I want this PR reverted. Issues 2865, 2963, 2964, 2980, 3013
Stephan
Nobody is working on Pharo this is well known.
I am feeling angry and ignored. I am trying to contribute and am frustrated in doing so. I am asked to go through fogbugz and make sure that important issues are reopened on github. I do so and get comments that bugs donât solve themselves, on the one where I notice that Rubric is not ready. I find and fix important other bugs and try to integrate them and notice that a lot of things donât work as they should. CI has been systematically red. The first thing I notice is that an in-image test is red, with a trivial to fix issue. Then I run into all kinds of other problems with Rubric not implementing something. And Iâm not the only one, looking at the issue tracker. So I look back trough github and see no signs of improvements in the past 14 days. I collected the relevant issues and reached out on github and discord first, without getting a useful reaction. This is not the development process we are using, as I understand it.
Please revert the PR. I have been working on FFI, Taskbar and CI bugs and I want to be able to commit, integrate PRs and make Pharo better. Pharo is mine.
Sorry but I did not like the ton of your email, especially because there are lot of information that you do not know.
Iâm up to date with the github commits, issues and PRs, Discord and the mailing lists. If you feel contributors need more information, please make sure we get it
Now if you want to help, add the issue to the projects so that I can work on them with Alain and others. Else I will do it.
Projects donât work yet.
If you want time to focus on Rubric only and donât want other contributions to Pharo 8 at the moment, then please announce so. Or use a branch. Donât integrate a PR that breaks CI and then donât fix the issues for two weeks.
Stephan