FFI yes, useful as well. 2012/6/15 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>:
My gripe is not so much that configs don't work together, it's that they work (very) differently over time; the work I did "last week" to build an image could be (often is) worthless "today." Â Configs really need to reflect on versions and do the right thing vs. current complexity. Â If pre-loading, how about FFI?
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of phil@highoctane.be [phil@highoctane.be] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:23 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4
Esteban,
Definitely worth doing!!!
Install all the stuff I need on new images etc just to the have to discard them for some reason doesn't makes me reinstall anything afterwards.
Tried to work the way of Mariano with the "ConfigurationOfXXXX" but frankly, let it fall by the wayside.
Just too many problems with loading packages that do work well together etc.
And no refactoring out of the box in 1.4 is really lame indeed. As for Nautilus in 2.0, the regular yellow crosses on red background are getting on my nerves, especially since I don't know why they do appear.$
So, yeah: +100000000
Philippe
2012/6/13 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
Hi,
I started thinking on next release of Pharo 1.4 (which will be code named "summer", not an ugly number). I've been monitoring the list and I think there are some things to improve, so I'm planning to add this things to new one click:
- pre-load OmniBrowser. Why I'm suggesting this? Because nobody seems to notice that OB is actually working on 1.4 and everybody complains that "you cannot have refactors, blabla", which is just not true, but is causing a lot of bad feeling around what is a great release (yes, I'm making some constructive criticism about the list attitude, but also about our/mine communicational capabilities). Original idea was to allow people to choose OB or Nautilus, since the last one will be the browser for Pharo in the future, but truth is that Nautilus is still a "technology preview"... and it will be there for all those like me, who want to use it. Finally, most important issue is that newcomers expect to have a full environment working out of the box, and they don'y know how to use the Configuration Browser.
- pre-load Spotlight Yeah, another small tool who can make your life easy. Why? just because I'm tired of seeing all of you typing class names at workspace and press cmd+b later... or using some more uncomfortable ways to reach your code. If you still prefer those ways, is up to you ;)
So far, this and the bugfixes we already made (and some more)...
What do you think?
Esteban
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