I certainly will not try to enforce it on anybody :). The reason why I used condensed bold for the title and menu is that because we have so many of them both windows and menus, it is difficult to identify them. So, I want to quickly spot the title when hovering over the tabs at the bottom which is not accomplishable. As for the menus, I just find them easier to grasp in this way. Anyway, I added this script together with a version for demos (larger font size) here: MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/setup' user: '' password: '' Cheers, Doru On 22 May 2009, at 13:20, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
gaah, these fat menus and title fonts look awful to me! ;) Adrian
On May 22, 2009, at 12:48 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
:) looks cool to me. thanks doru.
<Picture 7.pdf><Picture 6.pdf> On May 22, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Thanks a lot, that worked fine.
So, I list below my settings. I use Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold for menus and window title. Because I use it there, I also use Helvetica Neue regular for the rest of the items, except for the code where I use Monaco:
menuFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize: 9 stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize: 14 stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 8. defaultFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize: 9. Preferences setSystemFontTo: defaultFont. Preferences setListFontTo: defaultFont. Preferences setFlapsFontTo: menuFont. Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: defaultFont. Preferences setMenuFontTo: menuFont. Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: defaultFont. Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. Preferences setButtonFontTo: defaultFont.
Cheers, Doru
On 22 May 2009, at 11:05, Andrew Tween wrote:
Hi
From: girba@iam.unibe.ch To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:19:44 +0200 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration
Hi,
I would like to give my script, but I do not know how to specify in a script that I want 'Helvetica Neue' - 'Condensed Bold'. Can anyone help?
codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize: 9 stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
Cheers, Andy
Cheers, Doru
On 22 May 2009, at 09:56, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo
core
and run the script I posted.
Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM? Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot?
Adrian
On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
this is strange because I get a blurry result. Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the 10309dev and the VM has the FT2plugin
Stef
On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida Grande and Monaco:
font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10. codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9. codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12. codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15. titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
Preferences setListFontTo: font. Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease the line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
Adrian
On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously expressed there: -Dejavu Sans for all but code -Code with Dedavu mono
The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage code related previsouly, is of equal importance.
If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN AWAY.
2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>:
Hi guys
on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default means ok for license and work on platforms....
Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even if they are proprietary.
So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :)
font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10. codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: 9. titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11.
Preferences setListFontTo: font. Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
Stef
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