[â¦] How does one generate the source (run the transformation)? Where are the aforementioned âdefined code transformationsâ, Is there an example of how to setup the declarative template needed to map VW namespace names to Pharo class prefixes? I loaded the following packages into my VW 8.3 image: Values Project Yes Values Values Fileout Pharo Values Testing Values Tools Values Tools Testing Automatic Load PDFtalk Project bundle. Since the main target is PDFtalk. Values (and PostScript) are just bycatch. Pharo Fileout Values No, this package has been renamed to [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk]. Load this. Pharo Transform No, not separate. This is part of the Transform Project. Smalltalk Transform Project Yes Smalltalk Transform TestBundle Smalltalk Transform Tests Smalltalk Transform Smalltalk Transform Model Smalltalk Transform Testing Smalltalk Transform TestPackage Smalltalk Transform Tools Automatic Yes, I just loaded the head packages and the dependencies were also loaded. Thanks for trimming that down for me. Any package not updated recently (in the last few months) I didnât load. Did I miss anything? Yes. The ideal setup from a virgin image Ok. I donât have a virgin image. I have a very non-virgin image, about 27 years of development Iâm trying to port to Pharo. I donât yet have a specific interest in the PDFtalk, though I do see a need for PDF generation later, and will probably revisit that. For now, I just want my own stuff to run in Pharo. is: Load {Values Project] bundle Load {PDFtalk Project} bundle Load {Smalltalk Transform Project} bundle Load [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk] package Save, done Okay, so do I understand correctly that I need to include the PDFtalk stuff even if Iâm not interested in PDFtalk, because thatâs where a lot of the Smalltalk transformation machinery lives? Or is the PDFtalk just being used as an example for how to do a massive transformation? Or Both? To transform Values do: âPharo100 fileOutValuesâ The [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk] package includes the latest Values transformations. I am thinking about a better modularization⦠Also, the wiki is a bit out of control. It really needs some restructuring. In the cites wiki page, there is a link to a blog where I record the changes. This might be informative. 2. Port the Values package. This is easy, since no namespaces are involved. This first instruction after VW package setup says to port the contents of the Values package from VW to Pharo. Do you mean manually? Probably not. No, no. This has been finished in March. For each dialect, I have a GitHub repository where I release important versions: <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk> https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk. You can find the working port as first release â <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk/releases/tag/1.3.0.0> Working versionâ. There you can download the ported Values fileout with the exact description with which versions of what it was created. This should be a good starting example. Why do I need any new code installed in Pharo before I begin the transformation, if Iâm transforming code from VW to pharo? Iâm not understanding the basic constraints of the problem, even when the detailed steps are clear. Iâve done these steps so far: 1. Went to <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk> https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk. 2. Saved down PDFtalk.Pharo100.st into <my Pharo 10 image directory>/pharo-local/Smalltalk-Transformation. (I figured that was a good place to save it. If anyone disagrees, or has a better or more conventional idea about where files should be saved, please say so. I setup a Pharo Git repo and played with it briefly for the first time yesterday. Iâve used Pharo off an on for 16 years, but this is the first time Iâm making a serious effort to manage source, and not throw away what Iâm working on.) 3. Filed-in PDFtalk.Pharo100.st. This went on for about 7 minutes or so. I have a hundreds if not over a thousand classes showing in Epicea. Is there anyway to get Epicea to give me a count of changes with a time-range filter? 4. Deleted (forgot) yesterdayâs, old Main practice-repo from both the image and the drive, and made a new one. I need to add to Main all the packages I just filed-in, but I donât see an efficient way to do that. I would like to use the Add Package button, but this gives a filtered list of available packages. I can filter subgroups, and then individually select each of the checkboxes to the left of each package (there is no Ctrl-A [select all] option here, which seems to be a strange omission given the potentially large number of packages involved). I see lots of prefixes for the classes just loaded. I could easily miss something if I filter/select/add one prefix-group at a time. Is there an easier way? Over in Epicea I donât see a way to push the loaded items listed to a specific repo. The first thought I have is to select all filed-in code artifacts by datetime span. I did that and saved it as an .ombu file (I have no idea what that is). I donât see a way to import that .ombu file into repo Mainâs âWorking copyâ window. It must be easy, but I donât see it. Please suggest the best way. I feel like Iâve missed the main details of how to start the transformation. Iâd like to do a small fully contained test package with no external dependencies as a first test, probably my Magnitude or Collection packages. Suggestions are welcome. Thanks for doing this and sharing it. If I may suggest, I would look at the transformations on the class side of the SmalltalkTransform.Pharo class: methods #ValuesProject and #PDFtalkProject (I know, some would detest, that I start methods sometimes with a capital letterâ¦). I used to be this way. Iâm okay with it now, and actually have selectors that are completely capitalized Acronyms. Times change. To get a feel for the machinery, you could debug through âPharo100 fileOutValuesâ (for Pharo 10.0). This will be my next step, but Iâm trying to understand the big picture of dependencies. The file-in was clean. I want to commit that before moving on. As said, Values donât use namespaces. To see what is involved there, you could look at #PDFtalkProject for the name mapping. But beware! The PDFtalk transformation is not finished yet. Still, you could get some inspiration and can probably reuse some of the rules. Great that you are trying to use the transformation project. The more use, the better it should get. Please share your questions and insights (and successes :)). Iâve been looking for a tool like this for many years. Thanks again. Shaping From: christian.haider <christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com <mailto:christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 June, 2022 05:42 To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Subject: [Pharo-users] [PDFtalk] second fileOut for Squeak and Pharo With help from the community some issues were fixed which improved the test statistics nicely. Check it out: https://wiki.pdftalk.de/doku.php?id=portingblog#second_pdftalk_fileout_for_s... Thanks to everybody involved! Happy hacking, Christian