the same :) I like coral scripting format. this is just a better chunk format :) But I do not want to open a war again. So better do it "alone" than fight with others. This is also my motto. Stef
i wonder, wouldn't it be better to adopt a new smalltalk scripting format, which annouced here lately? IMO it is better to use single format for many different purposes than use multiple formats. What you think?
2009/3/20 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>:
Hi goran
I did not get at all why you need a new format. Without self. I think that if you want adoption of deltastream do not mix them with a file format.
Stef
On Mar 20, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Göran Krampe wrote:
Hi!
Keith Hodges wrote:
Also with DeltaStreams integration with Installer, we might have the ability to load into a "Delta/SystemEditor" rather than actually in to the image.
Ah! There's my queue! :)
Yes, although I only read casually what you are talking about I do agree with the general notions expressed. And yes, hopefully we will soon have Deltas in a useful form.
Quick status again, followed with some questions:
- Lots of tests are now green, still lots of tests not green but most of them are "wishful thinking"-tests and not really broken tests. - I am refactoring and cleaning right now, as a pre-cursor to adding the new file format. - I am also just beginning to try out Tirade as a file format. For more info on Tirade, see my first article:
http://goran.krampe.se/blog/Squeak/Tirade.rdoc
So in a relatively short timeperiod I hope we have code to load and save Deltas as xxx.d (Delta Tirade format) and xxx.dgz (Gzipped). Would these two file extensions work? Or should we use convention *.d and *.d.gz?
Next step IMHO is to write a Dual Change Sorter-ish tool for Deltas - I would also like to hear advice on how to build that in order to:
- Be compatible with as many Squeak forks as possible. - Get a clean nice simple tool.
Just copy plain dual change sorter? Use Toolbuilder? Use MC codebase? Omnibase?
The end goal would be to fully replace Dual Change Sorter - which means that I would also like to have some support for loading a cs as a Delta and to save a Delta as a plain cs.
...and as always, if you like to join us in moving Deltastreams forward, just holler!
regards, Göran
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