Thanks for your help. Because of it, I've found a couple ways around the issue. Far more important is knowing there are folks out there.I hope to be useful to the community as I gain experience. Pharo is cool - and I am grateful Squeak has strong shoulders upon which Pharo can stand. Thanks again. PS I didn't respond directly to your responses because I signed up for the digest form of the list. Now that I want to change it from that subscription type, I can't seem to get into the list to modify my account *Error: **Authentication failed.*which is strange because I just created the account yesterday and know the password. Well, on the assumption I'm that stupid, I asked the list to send me my password. I haven't received it after asking twice. Who should I contact or should I just create another account?