Göran, I think before we adopt anything, it should have the "left running" scenario addressed in some way. Pharo is supposed to be robust. That mean losing the silent failures, and doing so in a way that the new information does not bring the system to its knees. On Windows, OutputDebugString() is probably good enough. Since I am doing everything I can to ditch said platform, I might not be the best person to ask. Certainly, it is where I would go for a live view, and a file-based log would then cover everything else - I think. On Linux, you mention lots of tools: any recommendations? Thanks! Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Göran Krampe [goran@krampe.se] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 6:57 PM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] simpleLog in pharo? On 09/08/2010 10:50 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
You mention something for viewing the log in-image. Dumb question: can it be left running and safely forgotten, or does it suffer under high load? Is there a way to view the log from outside of a running image? The latter is less important in proportion to the robustness of the in-image viewer. One thing that I often miss is DebugView; it would be really nice to find an equivalent on Linux.
Bill
SimpleLog has a LogMorph, I didn't write it but it registers itself as an emitter. Not sure what it does if it is "left running" :) It could probably use a "max backlog" or something, if it doesn't have that already. Viewing the log from outside: There are two "ways". First there is a logfile emitter - which writes to a log file and also does log file rotation after a max size etc. So you could always "tail" that file. Second is to use the syslog emitter - which IMHO is the best. That emitter uses syslog UDP standard messages to the local syslog port and then - on a normal linux box - your stuff will end up in the system log. From there you have TONS of tools. regards, Göran _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project