On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Sorry Stef but I disagree. PLEASE don't misunderstand me. I know a lot of very good people have worked and is still working in Nile project. So, I am sure it is an excellent product.
However, I don't think it should be in Dev image. Dev image is for "Developers". So, we put tools like NewInspector, RoelTyper, E and OCompletion, Refactoring, etc. But why Nile ?
But mariano Nile is an alternate library it is beta. If people have to load it then better throw it away right now.
I am not agree this is neither a way to push Nile to be used. It is no difference if you already have the code in the image or not, it is just one click of difference (as you have the Nile-All).
No there is a big difference. People do not know that they should look for it.
Even if it where the case, I think it should be in Core image. The way to push a project to be used is to write documentation, tutorials, show the benefits over other implementations....and so on.
If Moose use it, ok, put it as a dependency. Now you have a Metacello configuration for Moose :) I mean, in SqueakDBX we use FFI and we don't put in the image. Seaside uses Slime and it is not in the image.
We should put FFI in the image too. Because this are infrastructural elements. When the newCompiler will be beta it should be in. It should not take 5 min to load something to try it.
Just my opinion. I hope no one feels offended.
What others think about this ?
Cheers
Mariano
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: Nile is in dev because it should be progressively use to replace existing streams. For example in Moose some important collection extensions depend on it.
Does another package of the dev image depends on Nile? If not, I don't understand why it is part of the dev image. I see it as any other external package but not a "dev tool" that should be included.
Thanks
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