On Jul 10, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
One of my greatest concerns about/for the Squeak community is an overall tone of "*YOU* can't do that because *I* think its's ugly" - or in this case, too slow. So, far be it from me to tell you that you cannot have even a super slow browser that does something you need. That's all the more true when you are doing such great things for Smalltalk and Pharo in particular. I am certainly not suggesting that we remove the browser that helps you make things better.
However, I suggest that we consider carefully what we choose as the default tools, or at least give options to those who are finding the current defaults to be slow. Even if we continue with the OB as the default, we could at least have a script somewhere with a comment along the lines of "for a faster (at the expense of features) IDE, evaluate the following:".
Yes we are concious about that.
It appears that we indeed have the alternate tools lurking in the image, so a little advertising might go a long way until we can fix the bottlenecks or Elliot makes a VM that overpowers them. I *think* I am asking only that we advertise the options and perhaps delay cleaning certain parts of the system until the high end tools get a speed boost. Alternately, we could take up a recent suggestion to temporarily disable specific features that are hobbling performance - either way that preserves what you need is fine by me. Is that reasonable?
Yes I agree.