Thanks Henrik this is something I understand. I will integrate that for 1.1 Now adrian is polishing 1.0 so we will see what will happen. Stef On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Henrik Johansen wrote:
On Apr 6, 2010, at 10:48 19PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Torsten I appreciate your effort but we can only do what can be done in the time we can allocate to do a task if you see what I mean. I cannot test on windows because we do not have a windows machine. We are doing an incredible amount of work but we cannot do more than it is reasonable to do.
Then in freeze time this is freeze time. we will try to get shorter iteration cycles and this is not by delaying 1.0 that we are making progress on that front.
And this is not by saying that pharo "will be less quality than" ... more or less that it helps.
So 1.0 will be like it can. And if people bash us this is ok too. You remember a while ago one guy asked who is ready to pay 10 Euros per month to have a better pharo and we got 6 persons....
However I still believe that fixing this in 1.0 would not only be a plus - it will also prevent questions regarding this new problem since people WILL use newer VM's after the first 1.0 release of Pharo and then instantly step into the problem!
And it is not a Windows specific problem as Stef thinks it is.
Bert requested John today (see [1]) to change the default for Mac too ...
TODAY. Imagine I was painting my house.... and this evening this would have to be fixed? When is the last time that a bug that annoys you on windows got fixed in one day? because for me on mac so far it took months.
so if you upgrade your Mac VM for whatever reason (maybe to do 1.1 work or since you need a newer VM for a commercial project) then you will step into this with the 1.0 image.
Yes and since you are a good pharoers you will know and you will understand and help us and help yourself.
I've put some slices based on the .cs in the inbox, one for 1.0 and one for 1.1. (quitSession was moved to WorldState in 1.1, and some other minor diffs) I've also tested and can confirm they work with the newest Windows VM, not sure about the behavior on Linux, which apparently was updated as well.
Cheers, Henry
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