at this point, the only exposure i have had to pharo is using seaside.. i hadn't thought much about using it to write stand alone apps. not that i don't think it would be a good idea, i just haven't needed to write and GUI apps in awhile.. anyway. i am thinking about starting an open source project to scratch an itch. i would imagine it will scratch a great deal of itches, so i would like it to be cross platform. i would like to make it look sharp on all platforms, and be easy to install.. should i consider pharo for such a project? are there some examples of stand alone apps i can see in real life? if you would like a little more background on this, you can check out: http://www.codingforhire.com/blog/The-Perfect-GTD-System thanks! -- ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary http://www.CodingForHire.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101